ATF is going to have an amnesty for braced pistols

[Alpha-17]

Meanwhile the ATF creates a massive new database and acquires infrastructure capable of processing millions of new registrations in a short period of time so that when they come for the rest of the semi's they are ready. I also predict in the future the IRS will decide hey we have too many armed agents you guys want to transfer to our sister Agency they need a little help? Commies gotta commie but you guys enjoy your "free" tax stamps while you can.

How would registering anything really have an impact on that? If they're going to go full Gestapo, 4473s, internet and credit card purchase history, and visiting forums as this one will undoubtedly be used to track down anything that this registry doesn't cover. Even if only 26,000 braced pistols exist and are registered (guarantee there are far, far more), the ATF and the IRS combined don't have the armed manpower to go after them all overnight. Folks will have warnings, And at that point, we should be shooting anyway.

Bottom line, nobody should have to register a damn thing, but unless you are of the opinion that people should always stay away from NFA items under every circumstance possible, there's no reason not to consider the possibility of turning this to our advantage now. At least until we get the actual plan announced and see just how hard the ATF will try to screw us over.

[mack7.62]

Number of pistol braces appears to be somewhere between 3 - 40 million, I would say that qualifies as common use. I don't have a problem with people that have NFA items, really wishing I had picked up a M16 back when they were around $1,000. If you already have NFA items no down side for taking advantage of this, but no way would I jump in now just to save a few hundred dollars. My wait and see is what happens during the election, this administration has gone rouge, if they manage to steal another election petty brace laws will no longer matter anyway.
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https://www.thetrace.org/2021/07/atf...ication-delay/

The precise number of pistol braces in circulation is unknown. The ATF estimates that between three million and seven million braces have been sold since 2012. The Congressional Research Service, meanwhile, reported “unofficial estimates” of between 10 million and 40 million braces “either purchased as accessories or already attached to firearms made at home or at the factory.”

[okie]

So we play the ATF, get free tax stamps and then when it gets over turned by the court we win. Then we buy more pistols, so we dont have the SBR issues when going State to State?

That is the play?

You say it like it's a bad thing

[yoni]

You say it like it's a bad thing

Not at all.

At first I was against doing anything. Now I want to see what they really are going to do, but with the ATF already having my photo and fingerprints, I don't really see the harm.

[okie]

https://youtu.be/9FQWJalNc-k

[Bret]

That's a good video which basically tells us there's a ton that we really don't know at this point. Another unknown is a potential trap involving sec922(r). ATF has issued contradictory letter regarding 922(r) applying to NFA items. If they're listing the person registering as the "maker" even though the braced pistol may have been purchased as-is from someone else and they contend that 922(r) applies to this newly registered SBR, then a person failing to get the parts count down to 10 or fewer of the listed foreign parts would have committed a felony.

[SteyrAUG]

That's a good video which basically tells us there's a ton that we really don't know at this point. Another unknown is a potential trap involving sec922(r). ATF has issued contradictory letter regarding 922(r) applying to NFA items. If they're listing the person registering as the "maker" even though the braced pistol may have been purchased as-is from someone else and they contend that 922(r) applies to this newly registered SBR, then a person failing to get the parts count down to 10 or fewer of the listed foreign parts would have committed a felony.

Most people are gonna be dealing with domestic ARs, the rest of us might need a few US made compliance parts. Thankfully for me HKParts makes just about everything.

[Bret]

While that's true, there are still guns out there that don't have enough U.S. made parts available in order to get over the 922(r) hurdle. I've made my own magazine followers and floor plates for several. Of course most people can't do that.

[SteyrAUG]

While that's true, there are still guns out there that don't have enough U.S. made parts available in order to get over the 922(r) hurdle. I've made my own magazine followers and floor plates for several. Of course most people can't do that.

Damn typos. That should have read "the rest of us might need a few US made compliance parts."

What firearm did you have to make followers and floor plates for? Or was that before Magpul made AK mags?

[okie]

That's a good video which basically tells us there's a ton that we really don't know at this point. Another unknown is a potential trap involving sec922(r). ATF has issued contradictory letter regarding 922(r) applying to NFA items. If they're listing the person registering as the "maker" even though the braced pistol may have been purchased as-is from someone else and they contend that 922(r) applies to this newly registered SBR, then a person failing to get the parts count down to 10 or fewer of the listed foreign parts would have committed a felony.

Not to mention the elephant in the room, which is the forward grips and rifles converted to pistols. I would go out on a limb and venture to guess that the number of aftermarket braces currently on rifles with short uppers is probably in the millions, and I imagine at least half of those probably have illegal forward grips on them. Unless you're really into this stuff like we are, or just happened to run into someone who is, who would ever guess that those things could ever be an issue? If the ATF has ulterior motives, I would have to say that's the glaringly obvious way they're going to screw a bunch of otherwise good law abiding folks.