ATF is going to have an amnesty for braced pistols

[prepare]

There's a 3rd group as well, they just won't be impacted (mostly). They're the ones who won't file a regular or amnesty Form 1 and won't remove the brace. 99.9% of them will never suffer any consequences at all. Those who skyline themselves or are engaged in illicit activities might get hammered as examples.

I'm glad to have known many in that group and they're all good people too. They just mind their own business.

[Bret]

There's a 3rd group as well, they just won't be impacted (mostly). They're the ones who won't file a regular or amnesty Form 1 and won't remove the brace. 99.9% of them will never suffer any consequences at all. Those who skyline themselves or are engaged in illicit activities might get hammered as examples.

I think that someone would be a fool to risk being charged with a federal felony for a brace. They'd be better off just installing a regular buttstock as it would gather less attention.

[thevolkp]

The number of sbrs in the U.S. must be staggering. With approximately 332 million people in the U.S., I wonder what the percentage of sbrs are per Capita. I would think that percentage would really get the discussion moving as to what is "common use".

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[prepare]

I think that someone would be a fool to risk being charged with a federal felony for a brace. They'd be better off just installing a regular buttstock as it would gather less attention.

I advocate using braces on SBR's just to add to the confusion.

[yoni]

I still think based on the string of wins we are having we are going to win this. I also still think based on at least one of the law suits, we also run a chance of SBR getting thrown out of the NFA.

If we win on braces then I would not change anything with my pistols. If they also throw out SBR, then the only thing I would do is first cut off the flexible rubber part of a SB tactical brace and see how that functions as a stock. If it works great, if not it will get replaced.

If we lose, then I will make the guns legal and SBR them . As stated earlier I view this as the best path, a downside of $1000 in tax stamps, V legal issues if we lose and the free stamp is a trojan horse. I guess I don't trust most federal things in the middle of a marxist take over. This whole thing fits Lenin's destroy the middle class by burying them with stupid laws.

[JediGuy]

They are going to require a picture of the firearm with the brace,

Nope.

[Bret]

Nope.

They FAQ says that they may, but there have been approvals without pictures.

[JediGuy]

I still think based on the string of wins we are having we are going to win this.
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I also still think based on at least one of the law suits, we also run a chance of SBR getting thrown out of the NFA.

If we win on braces then I would not change anything with my pistols.

I hope we win.

Dropping SBR’s from the NFA seems like a good idea, though that may make things difficult for a while if states and lower courts view that as a removal of federal protection, Bruen or no Bruen.

If we win on braces, I will take the stock off my free SBR and out a brace on it when the situation warrants a handgun over an SBR.

Plenty of us are already on “the list” for SBR/suppressor/DD items. Getting one for free has exactly zero downsides.

[rocsteady]

You've made a couple of assumptions that are incorrect. The first is that the 5 to 40 million people will all submit amnesty Form 1's (there is no stamp for these). There are two groups of people impacted. The first are people who have other NFA items and the second are (and much larger group) are people who don't have NFA items. The vast majority of the second group will not submit amnesty Form 1's. Instead, assuming this isn't overturned, they'll just remove the braces. The vast majority of the first group will submit the amnesty Form 1's because they're already on the NFA radar and they will not wait until the last minute to do it. After all, it's a "free" Form 1. The second assumption that you've made is that if the amnesty Form 1's is about processing. According to the ATF's FAQ's, once the amnesty Form 1 is submitted, you're good. You just have to have the submitted form with you if the deadline passes and it hasn't yet been approved. You don't have to wait for the approval for it to be considered legal (again). So, if the approval doesn't come back until after the deadline, there is no consequence. Now if someone is new to the eforms and decides they want this to be their first rodeo, then it wouldn't be wise to wait until the last day. That said, the number of people who will do this is likely very small.

Wondering just how many states allow SBRs? Here in Jersey, I don't believe that "just removing the brace" makes it legal? Have to imagine there are a LOT of the "others" that were sold here in NJ as it was the only way to get something with a barrel shorter than 16" and I can't imagine people will be lining up to destroy their firearms.

[Bret]

Here in Jersey, I don't believe that "just removing the brace" makes it legal?

If it's a pistol and legal with a brace, I wouldn't think that it would be illegal without a brace.