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Thread: ATF is going to have an amnesty for braced pistols

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    So the downsides are:
    -I have a NFA items that are individually registered (no trust). If after death they would be transferable like any other NFA item?
    -Let’s say that the whole brace thing gets thrown out by the court- could I then be stuck with an NFA item where as if I had just waited PERHAPS have no restrictions. Or are teh legal permutations just to many and complex to really game.

    Considering that I could get my SP5 SBRs with out having to scar it up, that is a win, the 922 is a win, saving $200 per gun is a win.

    Downsides are having NFA items in a purple state- lets say they outlaw SBRs, I can’t just take them back to being pistols?
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    According to Washington Gun Law on you tube only 125,000 people have turned in the paperwork as of Friday.

    So if 40 million or even 10 million of us own them a lot of us are raising our middle finger to the government

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    So the downsides are:
    -I have a NFA items that are individually registered (no trust). If after death they would be transferable like any other NFA item?
    -Letís say that the whole brace thing gets thrown out by the court- could I then be stuck with an NFA item where as if I had just waited PERHAPS have no restrictions. Or are teh legal permutations just to many and complex to really game.

    Considering that I could get my SP5 SBRs with out having to scar it up, that is a win, the 922 is a win, saving $200 per gun is a win.

    Downsides are having NFA items in a purple state- lets say they outlaw SBRs, I canít just take them back to being pistols?
    Iím not a lawyer and not sure how it being tax free affects it but one would imagine that if you put it on your will to leave it to someone they should be able to apply for a form 5 transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    According to Washington Gun Law on you tube only 125,000 people have turned in the paperwork as of Friday.

    So if 40 million or even 10 million of us own them a lot of us are raising our middle finger to the government
    Please dig up a real/better # for "..... of us own them". I can't imagine there's a large number of braced pistols out there. I just don't know, but 1/4mil out of 20mil seems like a lot. If 1/4mil was the #, than 50% already kneeled like good sheeple.

    Some fast searching seems to suggest only about 20mil "AR's" are out there, and about 500mil firearms in total.

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    It is a figure from one of the Congressional research bodies that has stated up to 40 million braced pistols is the number they have put out as fact.

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    You would have to go by the number of braces that have been sold because a lot of people that have/had braced pistols bought uppers and lowers separate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    According to Washington Gun Law on you tube only 125,000 people have turned in the paperwork as of Friday.
    My gut feel guess is that 95%+ of the people who have amnesty registered a braced pistol already own NFA items. For them it's really more like getting a free factory SBR transfer without having to wait the 8+ months. Very few people are going to allow themselves to be forced into the NFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    It is a figure from one of the Congressional research bodies that has stated up to 40 million braced pistols is the number they have put out as fact.
    Hmmm. Of the 20mil AR's out there, certainly just a small # of those are braced pistols.
    I wonder what the 40mil items are?
    Was the # perhaps 4mil and not 40mil ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bret View Post
    My gut feel guess is that 95%+ of the people who have amnesty registered a braced pistol already own NFA items. For them it's really more like getting a free factory SBR transfer without having to wait the 8+ months. Very few people are going to allow themselves to be forced into the NFA.
    I agree. My first thought was to do a free SBR. I have to think a ton of people don't know anything about this ridiculous nonsense at all.
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    On the other hand, I could see non NFA people getting into NFA items because of this. I’ve stayed NFA free just to stay off of official lists- CO is going to go fuller stupid soon- but with the court cases going the way they should, an AWB is probably not an issue. If I get these compliant, I might as well get a couple of cans too…. Something for my MP5K gun, a bolt guns 6.5, maybe something for my new AR SBR…
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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