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Thread: ATF is going to have an amnesty for braced pistols

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgeib View Post
    https://twitter.com/RMFifthCircuit/s...40027739070465

    A preliminary injunction was granted by the 5th Circuit today temporarily blocking the ATF's pistol brace rule. This is actually a much bigger deal than it may seem. Preliminary injunctions are granted only in cases where the plaintiff would suffer irreparable harm if not granted, AND in which the Plaintiff is seen by the court as being likely to win the case on its merits.
    Threat of imprisonment is a pretty high up there on suffering irreparable harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    BUT, it's ONLY for the Plaintiffs and ONLY in 5th Cir, not a Nationwide so for the rest of us the Jackbootery can proceed unabated.
    Can this be mitigated by joining the FPC?
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    My understanding is it's ONLY for plaintiff Mock(?). FPC has a followup query to the Court about whether it also appleis to FPC members in 5C or FPC nationwide. My bet is even if so, having an FPC card isn't gonna stop Jackboot First Questions Never...

    Between this and the shit where Border Patrol just murdered an Indian on the porch of his own home for being a complainant about illegals committing Criminal Trespass and wrecking his ranch, scalping needs to become a thing again...
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    So right now it's unconstitutional for the plaintiffs but not the rest of us, BUT, I would think that would indicate that it should be good for us soon as well. Sure would be nice to get another win for the good guys this year.
    "Why "zombies"? Because calling it 'training to stop a rioting, starving, panicking, desperate mob after a complete governmental financial collapse apocalypse' is just too wordy." or in light of current events: training to stop a rioting, looting, molotov cocktail throwing, skinny jeans wearing, uneducated bunch of lemmings duped by, or working directly for, a marxist organization attempting to tear down America while hiding behind a race-based name

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocsteady View Post
    So right now it's unconstitutional for the plaintiffs but not the rest of us, BUT, I would think that would indicate that it should be good for us soon as well. Sure would be nice to get another win for the good guys this year.
    Cold comfort for the poor schlubs who the triggerhappy rumprangers Vicky Weaver between now and then. No Court this side of the Second Coming can raise the dead after all... and you can bet the sick freaks are already getting RSI's (which will no doubt be put in for Workman's Comp and passing the tab on to us) jacking off and fingerbanging themselves to fantasies of the day the leash comes off...
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    I almost wonder if SCOTUS passed on the Illinios?Naperville AWB (and it probably should have based on law and precedent- at this time) so that they can do something here with out seeming to be ‘gun crazy’. That’s the kind of BS that Roberts pushes. Let’s say the ATF appeals (to SCOTUS) and it goes to Alito, could he make it nationwide?

    My guess is that ATF leaves this alone, at least until after the 31st, and tries to ‘clean up’ the 5th later. That SCOTUS is looking for Chevron deference closely, and the gun decisions, there is about three paths to kill this- and maybe take a swipe/bite out of the NFA…
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    For anyone paying attention, the fifth circuit has granted injunctive relief for members of the Firearms Policy Coalition. And that has apparently been clarified to include anyone who is a member, regardless of when they joined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGuy View Post
    For anyone paying attention, the fifth circuit has granted injunctive relief for members of the Firearms Policy Coalition. And that has apparently been clarified to include anyone who is a member, regardless of when they joined.
    Nice. This is all a great step in the right direction. The injunction is a strong portend of what's to come.
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    I am a member so I can breath a little easier, but will not breath a sigh of relief until everyone is free of this BS forever.

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    Looks like will extend to GOA /Gun Owners of America members too very soon. And this is yet another reason to join these groups but I would hope the rest of the populace will enjoy the same before the 1st of June.

    Video I saw earlier made the point that the ATF may have painted itself into a corner with the backlash that's happening with this and other cases. Also, big EPA smackdown in a 9-0 decision by the SCOTUS bodes well as an analogy to what the ATF is attempting.
    "Why "zombies"? Because calling it 'training to stop a rioting, starving, panicking, desperate mob after a complete governmental financial collapse apocalypse' is just too wordy." or in light of current events: training to stop a rioting, looting, molotov cocktail throwing, skinny jeans wearing, uneducated bunch of lemmings duped by, or working directly for, a marxist organization attempting to tear down America while hiding behind a race-based name

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