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    What if a suppressor is used in a defensive shooting?

    My main HD AR pistol has a direct threaded suppressor attached. I know that in a defensive shooting, the police will usually collect the weapon for evidence, and was wondering if that would include an attached suppressor.

    Anyone have an idea about this? Presumably a big no-no to remove the can before the cops get there to take it into evidence, right?
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    How would they know it was mounted for the shoot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoo95 View Post
    How would they know it was mounted for the shoot?

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    Good question. In general, this is valid, but because mine is direct threaded, I would need to thread on a muzzle device before they arrive. Seems a bit... much, in light of someone potentially dying on my doorstep as I'm hypothetically going about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgeib View Post
    Good question. In general, this is valid, but because mine is direct threaded, I would need to thread on a muzzle device before they arrive. Seems a bit... much, in light of someone potentially dying on my doorstep as I'm hypothetically going about this.
    Why would you need to add something else? You give them a lot of credit. I'm trying to imagine a scenario where they question your having no muzzle device and that turning into a search for something. No muzzle device is not a crime. I've seen weapons taken which didn't even have sights.
    Ultimately, choose your own way with this but I wouldn't over think it. Hell, I wouldn't even post the question. But that's my thoughts on it


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    TL/DR: If you have the option, don't use things you might miss/be difficult to replace for HD/SD, imho.

    Being in most every jurisdiction, if you're in a justified SD scenario, your gun goes off to evidence in the configuration they found it, and the chances of seeing it again are slim or at least the process of getting it back will be grueling.

    If I was in an SD scenario, the last of my worries would be what happens to my gun and stuff attached to it after the po-po show up. As most of us agree, we like not being in jail.
    Perceived "tampering" could be bad; pretty dang sure of it. I'd probably just write it off.

    My HD and EDC stuff is as reliable as possible, but absolutely replaceable.

    Larping/"rare-er"(Nothing I own is that rare, maybe more sentimental than anything)/high dollar stuff stays in the safe.
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    IMHO, if you have to shoot someone in your house the last thing your going to give a fck about is the gear you used. I have a DT can on my Colt 6945 and it can all go to to the coppers if they want it. When they show up, Ill ask, do you need my can, Im sure they will take it but who gives a shit , your alive.

    Yes they may fck it up but who cares you are alive and are your loved ones and that is all that counts. If that worries you, blow your eardrums and kill the bad guy. Either way the good guy wins, hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutofBatt3ry View Post
    TL/DR: If you have the option, don't use things you might miss/be difficult to replace for HD/SD, imho.

    Being in most every jurisdiction, if you're in a justified SD scenario, your gun goes off to evidence in the configuration they found it, and the chances of seeing it again are slim or at least the process of getting it back will be grueling.

    If I was in an SD scenario, the last of my worries would be what happens to my gun and stuff attached to it after the po-po show up. As most of us agree, we like not being in jail.
    Perceived "tampering" could be bad; pretty dang sure of it. I'd probably just write it off.

    My HD and EDC stuff is as reliable as possible, but absolutely replaceable.

    Larping/"rare-er"(Nothing I own is that rare, maybe more sentimental than anything)/high dollar stuff stays in the safe.
    The irony comes in when you confront a burglar and instead of losing your $3500 TV, you lose a $10K rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoo95 View Post
    How would they know it was mounted for the shoot?

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    Gets caught on your neighbors RING cam.

    If I have to shoot somebody, in my limited response to the police I may mention the suppressor is for hearing protection. Other than that, these are questions for my lawyer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoo95 View Post
    How would they know it was mounted for the shoot?

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    When they ask where the supe is, because it's a legal registered item, and then they look at the soot inside the can, they'll know rather fast it was on the barrel at time of shooting. Forensics has really come a long way.

    How using a legal setup makes any diff, not sure, but look what they tried to do with Rittenhouse. My guess is, if it was all legal w/o snags, defense would get judge to agree that any call-out to identify the rifle as anything other than a "all-legal rifle" would be banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwayneZ View Post
    When they ask where the supe is, because it's a legal registered item, and then they look at the soot inside the can, they'll know rather fast it was on the barrel at time of shooting. Forensics has really come a long way.

    How using a legal setup makes any diff, not sure, but look what they tried to do with Rittenhouse. My guess is, if it was all legal w/o snags, defense would get judge to agree that any call-out to identify the rifle as anything other than a "all-legal rifle" would be banned.
    Last I checked soot doesn't have time lapse indicators?

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