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    I had a convo with my Boomer Dad about the country falling apart...

    His response was "There's literally nothing you can do about it so stop worrying and try to enjoy life."

    I feel like this thought process is the reason the US is dead.

    I haven't talked to him in 2 months since the discussion.

    Enjoy your Chick-fil-A, Costco, and SS, Pops.

    I sent him an AR(to his local FFL) and a bunch of mags and ammo. He said .223 doesn't work good for deer. smh.

    I don't know.
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    You must be younger....he's not wrong. At 41, this country is ****ed without fundamental, revolutionary style change. Ain't gonna happen....but I secretly hope it will. You can get wrapped up in politics and issues, but you will never get out the stress and angst you put in. Move to a red state if you're not already, focus on what you can control in your orbit, and ignore the rest. I hope things get bad enough to kick off the big show...but it hasn't happened yet.

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    I’ll worry about tanks driving down my street when I see them. Till then I’ll live my life, enjoy my family and not worry about such things.
    I tried to follow the science but it simply was not there. I then followed the money, thats where i found the science.

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    With age comes wisdom about such things. Politics is not worth anyone's time as it simply takes advantage of the psychological human reaction to fear using half truths and outright lies. It taps into your evolutionary tribal impulses and lizard brains you.

    Eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die.

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    So partly yes, partly no.

    Some things we can never influence, some things we can actually fix. I felt like we were totally screwed in 2016...and then Trump won. So literally anything can happen.

    We aren't gonna get back to a mythical "Leave it to Beaver" America so in that regard, enjoy your ChicFilA and don't drive yourself crazy titling windmills. But some things, especially at a local level, you can improve and you need to actually do your own research and find out what those are in your own zip code.

    The great reset...probably won't happen...probably for the best because the outcome is likely to be even worse than what we tried to correct. If the shooting ever starts in earnest...ok...game on I guess, but I'm not gonna be in the "Storm Area 51" crowd.

    I think every generation imagines it's kind of the "end times" because unless you grew up during the depression, adult hood does seem worse. But that is because you have a better understanding of things like politics and laws. I know I have fewer freedoms than my father enjoyed as a kid. But I also know that as bad as things are today in many ways they were worse during the 90s. Anyone who didn't live through the Clinton Ban has no idea just how good they have it right now.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    We were cleaning out a shed today. We found all kind of cool stuff that we basically threw out because of water damage. My copy of Unintended Consequences, old issue of American Rifleman, an old pre-assault weapon ban catalog of cool guns, my first Alaska CCW license, and a copy of a letter to the editor I wrote in 1994. Most of the shit was 25 to 30 years ago.

    25 to 30 years ago we didn't have constitutional carry anywhere other than Vermont. Now we have it in 25 states. 25 years ago we were in the middle of assault weapon ban in this country; now we are still in the middle of the greatest time for semi auto self defense weapons in our history. SBR's and suppressors were virtually unknown by the public back then, and now they are common place. Americans bought nearly 4 million pistol braces just to get around the SBR rules, or to simply have fun.

    Folks that bitch and moan about inflation probably weren't around for 16 to 18% mortgage rates and 25% commercial rates in 1981 and 1982. People forget gas rationing in the 70's. People forget about Ruby Ridge, Waco, and the Oklahoma City bombing.

    This is just a small sampling of shit that happened during my Gen X'er's life. You can pile on another whole pile of shitty stuff boomers have seen.

    We need to remain vigilant and continue to push back against progressivism, but this is far from the worst time in American history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKDoug View Post
    We were cleaning out a shed today. We found all kind of cool stuff that we basically threw out because of water damage. My copy of Unintended Consequences, old issue of American Rifleman, an old pre-assault weapon ban catalog of cool guns, my first Alaska CCW license, and a copy of a letter to the editor I wrote in 1994. Most of the shit was 25 to 30 years ago.

    25 to 30 years ago we didn't have constitutional carry anywhere other than Vermont. Now we have it in 25 states. 25 years ago we were in the middle of assault weapon ban in this country; now we are still in the middle of the greatest time for semi auto self defense weapons in our history. SBR's and suppressors were virtually unknown by the public back then, and now they are common place. Americans bought nearly 4 million pistol braces just to get around the SBR rules, or to simply have fun.

    Folks that bitch and moan about inflation probably weren't around for 16 to 18% mortgage rates and 25% commercial rates in 1981 and 1982. People forget gas rationing in the 70's. People forget about Ruby Ridge, Waco, and the Oklahoma City bombing.

    This is just a small sampling of shit that happened during my Gen X'er's life. You can pile on another whole pile of shitty stuff boomers have seen.

    We need to remain vigilant and continue to push back against progressivism, but this is far from the worst time in American history.
    Strongly agree. For the longest time I said 1968/1969 was the worst time, but with the summer of burning we came damn close.

    I do remember the militia movement of the 90s (hell I remember the militia movements of the 80s) and how "to a man" they were convinced we'd be in a full on civil war by the end of the 20th century.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Good to know we're in good hands. Don't worry Op. All the pesky boomers will be gone relatively soon and with your keen insight. I have no doubt you'll turn this country around.

    Would you be able to share the plan with us? So we can Revel in your coming glory before we check out?

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    "He said .223 doesn't work good for deer"
    True statement.

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    I just had the exact opposite convo with my early boomer (now 70's) father. He is totally stressed out over tons of things in the current USA, some real, some fabricated by the news media. Also has a severe case of TDS. The combination of early involuntary retirement and living in a "desirable" wealthy area near a big city have caused him social isolation, and the Covidiocy from 2020-now made it a lot worse. He was a late teen / young adult in the 60's and it really affected him badly, between the crime, social unrest at all levels (including within his family), a close friend shot and killed at Kent State, another friend killed in ordinary street crime, etc.

    So I was the one saying to enjoy life because we can't do much if anything about the situation. And he has no counter but still stressed out.

    What I didn't say is that I'm active in local change, some of it overtly political and some of it more social but even more useful. Wonderful small grassroots movement here is changing a lot of things for the better at a local scale. We are geographically isolated so it's easier here than it would be near a big city, but whatever, it's being made to happen. This group has already made a huge change in the local education system, and has put various authorities on notice that abuses won't be tolerated. We're working quietly to make some other equally large changes in other systems that Covidiocy showed were all messed up.

    I would encourage anyone to stop caring about things they can't change, but do what they can to cause positive change at the local level and scale where they are able to be useful.


    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    So partly yes, partly no.

    Some things we can never influence, some things we can actually fix. I felt like we were totally screwed in 2016...and then Trump won. So literally anything can happen.

    We aren't gonna get back to a mythical "Leave it to Beaver" America so in that regard, enjoy your ChicFilA and don't drive yourself crazy titling windmills. But some things, especially at a local level, you can improve and you need to actually do your own research and find out what those are in your own zip code.

    The great reset...probably won't happen...probably for the best because the outcome is likely to be even worse than what we tried to correct. If the shooting ever starts in earnest...ok...game on I guess, but I'm not gonna be in the "Storm Area 51" crowd.

    I think every generation imagines it's kind of the "end times" because unless you grew up during the depression, adult hood does seem worse. But that is because you have a better understanding of things like politics and laws. I know I have fewer freedoms than my father enjoyed as a kid. But I also know that as bad as things are today in many ways they were worse during the 90s. Anyone who didn't live through the Clinton Ban has no idea just how good they have it right now.
    Right on, a wise and accurate description.

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