Looks like the Opium epidemic has been around a long time.

[THCDDM4]

The vast majority of people that drink...aren't alcoholics. I'll will agree to that.

The vast majority of people that do meth and opioids...do it all the time...

Lets go to the the typical Christmas party. They have a table of booze. You get what I'm saying. They didn't have a meth/opiate table at the Christmas party.

It depends on what Christmas parties you’re attending, really.

Drugs is drugs. People who will **** up their lives on heroin, will **** up their lives on weed or alcohol or meth or whatever.

People will Imbibe what they wish regardless of laws- prohibition laws actually cause more use and bigger problems.

The vast majority of people who drink- drink regularly as well, so what’s your point?

[gsd2053]

There are people who have an addictive mind. They tend to indulge in things. They have a propensity to try things without thinking them through. They have a mindset that they can handle anything.

Then there are people who do not have an addictive mind. They can generally stop even with addictive substances before the get deep into the physical addiction. An example of this is Joe Rogan. There are many people like this. Most just do not discuss it openly.

Then you have high functioning addicts. That indulge regularly. However they are able to keep it at bay well enough to hold down jobs. However these people are constantly struggling to keep it at bay. Some do it for years. Some for their entire life.

[WillBrink]

The vast majority of people that drink...aren't alcoholics. I'll will agree to that.

The vast majority of people that do meth and opioids...do it all the time...

Lets go to the the typical Christmas party. They have a table of booze. You get what I'm saying. They didn't have a meth/opiate table at the Christmas party.

Do we have a source on that? It's probably true as one of part of the social fabric, legal, and all that, but I'm not sure we really know considering it's not something that's on the radar unless the person having addiction issues.

[jsbhike]

Start having alcohol drinkers get their alcohol from some dude distilling it(and adulterating it for whatever reason) out in the woods to make it more of an apples to apples comparison.

[jsbhike]

Do we have a source on that? It's probably true as one of part of the social fabric, legal, and all that, but I'm not sure we really know considering it's not something that's on the radar unless the person having addiction issues.

Just depends on the office that is having the party.

Coming from an historically dry option territory it is still rare to have alcohol at Christmas parties.

Used to be a doctor with TV and radio call in shows who mentioned going to high end office parties where there was plenty of drug use with the users having more than enough wealth to buy what they wanted and effectively not having to obey any laws.

[jsbhike]

There are people who have an addictive mind. They tend to indulge in things. They have a propensity to try things without thinking them through. They have a mindset that they can handle anything.

Then there are people who do not have an addictive mind. They can generally stop even with addictive substances before the get deep into the physical addiction. An example of this is Joe Rogan. There are many people like this. Most just do not discuss it openly.

Then you have high functioning addicts. That indulge regularly. However they are able to keep it at bay well enough to hold down jobs. However these people are constantly struggling to keep it at bay. Some do it for years. Some for their entire life.

Had a former boss point out practically everyone is addicted to at least something. That something can be something ingested or an activity and may or may not manifest in a way that is deleterious to the addicted person, but it is an addiction all the same.

[Todd00000]

I'm assuming that's sarcasm. At least I hope it is.

No not sarcasm. There are addicts and there are users and users are the vast majority. Our war on drugs to save people from addiction is a lie.

[Todd00000]

There are people who have an addictive mind. They tend to indulge in things. They have a propensity to try things without thinking them through. They have a mindset that they can handle anything.

Then there are people who do not have an addictive mind. They can generally stop even with addictive substances before the get deep into the physical addiction. An example of this is Joe Rogan. There are many people like this. Most just do not discuss it openly.

Then you have high functioning addicts. That indulge regularly. However they are able to keep it at bay well enough to hold down jobs. However these people are constantly struggling to keep it at bay. Some do it for years. Some for their entire life.

This.

[Disciple]

Had a former boss point out practically everyone is addicted to at least something. That something can be something ingested or an activity and may or may not manifest in a way that is deleterious to the addicted person, but it is an addiction all the same.

The neural pathways that allow for chemical addiction likely exist for forming habits around behavior with a positive outcome. Hijacking that mechanism through drugs, or even social media dopamine hits, really isn't the same thing IMO and should not be described with the same terminology.

[gsd2053]

When Trump said China didn't have a drug problem. That wasn't actually accurate. Xi said we have quick trial. With quick death sentence. Just where is all that Fentanyl reportedly coming from again?

Well if there was no drug problem. There would be no quick trial. They are suppressing it deeper under ground. Which makes it less apparent.

I am one with the mindset that, it's your life. Do with and make of it what you want. Just don't harm others. Those laws are the ones that need to be enforced.