Political Argument leads to vehicular Homicide.

[john armond]

From what I read, the driver is the one who called 911 to report he ran the kid down. Said he thought the kid was calling in friends from right wing extremist group to attack him (driver) and basically claiming self defense. Kid was on the phone with his mother because driver was chasing him (not sure if in car yet or on foot) and he was trying to get away and wanted her to get there to pick him up. By the time she showed up her son was dead.

I’m betting we see a huge self defense argument in court.

[Artos]

Out on 50k bail seems pretty cheap for murder.

My understanding is they did not charge him with murder (which they should using his vehicle as the weapon of choice)...supposedly just vehicular manslaughter like as in an accident.

[Inkslinger]

From what I read, the driver is the one who called 911 to report he ran the kid down. Said he thought the kid was calling in friends from right wing extremist group to attack him (driver) and basically claiming self defense. Kid was on the phone with his mother because driver was chasing him (not sure if in car yet or on foot) and he was trying to get away and wanted her to get there to pick him up. By the time she showed up her son was dead.

I’m betting we see a huge self defense argument in court.

It will be a pretty weak SD argument when the guy could have just driven away to safety.

[Averageman]

From what I read, the driver is the one who called 911 to report he ran the kid down. Said he thought the kid was calling in friends from right wing extremist group to attack him (driver) and basically claiming self defense. Kid was on the phone with his mother because driver was chasing him (not sure if in car yet or on foot) and he was trying to get away and wanted her to get there to pick him up. By the time she showed up her son was dead.

I’m betting we see a huge self defense argument in court.

And this is exactly why Biden's speech is so important in this case.
Is this guy is a nut and Biden's rhetoric pushed him over the edge? Or is killing someone for "Bad Thought" now the right thing?

Also whose brother in law is he because you don't walk on 50K bond for murder anywhere I've heard of.

[henri]

This entire situation can, perhaps be attributed to the xiden administrations divisive rhetoric, the media, extreme ideologic rancor, or merely some crazy guy upset at someone opposed to his viewpoint. The way the media is ignoring this is of no surprise, the legal systems response, also a bit of a surprise given the state where this occurred, in socialist states like ny ca, ma, the murderer probably would not have been charged or arrested. I do not engage people in outdoor venues, keep to myself, avoid confrontation, and ignore political discussions with strangers. Now, should an inevitable or unavoidable untoward situation arise, I will win that argument or confrontation.

[Todd.K]

I’m betting we see a huge self defense argument in court.

What makes you think he will make it to court?

[sgtrock82]

Bring it. I can't build a throne of skulls without their participation.

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[kerplode]

What makes you think he will make it to court?

Yeah, this. Worst case scenario for this dude is he catches a couple years probation.

Team D takes care of it's own. They made that pretty clear during the summer of 2020.

[john armond]

It will be a pretty weak SD argument when the guy could have just driven away to safety.

Don’t disagree with you at all. But as someone else pointed out above, they only charged him with vehicular manslaughter, basically an auto accident, and not murder.

Arguments not SD related:

Honestly your honor, he told me his buddies were going to get me. When I saw him on the phone I tried to scare him to stop him from calling them by revving my engine and didn’t realize I was in drive.

Or I tried to quickly back away when he was calling his friends to kill me, but I was so scared I thought I was in reverse, but was actually in drive.

Whether he uses a SD or accident argument might hinge on what he said on the 911 call he made to report himself.

[glocktogo]

I flat don't believe this guy. He's a serial drunkard with anger management issues. He may be a raging leftist and the teenager may have been a raging alt-right wingnut. But at the end of the day, he was doing what he'd always done, be a drunk menace to society. What I do believe he did was kill this kid, realize he effed up huge and cooked up this cockamamie excuse to run the kid over while still in his drunken stupor. So is Biden's rhetoric responsible for this kid's death? Nope. Drunk drivers kill people, same as it ever was.

What Biden IS responsible for, is that fact that even a mean drunkard would believe claiming his victim was an "Ultra-Maga Extremist" would turn manslaughter or murder into a justifiable homicide. Biden is responsible for the fact that mainstream media believe they can completely ignore a self-professed hate crime which if the roles were reversed, they would be breathlessly covering every hour with a chiron crawler running nonstop, and dramatic hour long specials to follow.

Biden has openly fomented an abject hatred of his political opponents while pretending he isn't, and simultaneously accusing his opponents of doing what he in fact is doing. We've always known his ilk to be raging hypocrites, but the blatantly increased use of the Marxist “Accuse Your Enemy Of What You Are Doing, As You Are Doing It To Create Confusion” tactic is deeply disturbing. When Psaki and KJP accuse the Republicans of gaslighting America as they themselves gaslight America, the press falls silent.

Given enough time and open or tacit support, our Post-Truth society will rapidly become a Post-Constitution country. We're all ****ed when that happens.