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    Upgrade or Replace non-optic Glocks

    I have several Gen 4 Glocks that I like but rarely shoot anymore as they are iron sight models. Primarily looking at two G19’s and a G17 to start.

    Round counts range from around 10K on the G19 to about 2K on the G17. All are in excellent condition, with a few mods like Vickers mag release, slide lock, and Ghost connectors.

    I’ve embraced red dots and I either want these guns to be modded or replaced.

    I don’t want to go through the slide milling again. It’s fine, but I’m not going to go that route. I’m either going to sell these guns and buy optic ready models (Glock MOS or maybe a PDP…) or I’m gonna get a new optic ready slide.

    The Brownells Glock slides are $160. I would likely buy a slide guts kit for another $110, and I’d still need sights for another $80-100….and then the optic. So excluding the optic, I’m looking at around $350-380 for the slide pre tax.

    I can buy a G19-17 MOS for $477 before tax and sell my non optic gun for $400-450 pretty easy.

    I currently have two guns I milled and three MOS models and honestly I see little difference in them.

    Leaning towards selling them over modifying them….

    Am I missing any better options?


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    I updated my Gen 3 Glock19 with the Brownells slide a few years ago, but with the numbers you posted, i would probably just sell yours and buy the G19MOS. Sounds like it will be a lot less hassle.

    I have also completely switched to RDS on all my pistols. My only pistol left is my Glock 20 10mm woods gun, but it's harder to get aftermarket slides for those, so it still currently has irons.

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    I believe your on track, sell your irons pistols.
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    Here are some options to upgrade your Gen 4 G19 and G17.

    Gen 4 Glock 19 RMR cut slide
    https://www.brownells.com/handgun-pa...rod134637.aspx

    Gen 4 Glock 17 RMR cut slide
    https://www.brownells.com/handgun-pa...rod121024.aspx

    Amerigo Suppressor Height night sights for Glocks.
    https://www.brownells.com/handgun-pa...10090301008005
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    Quote Originally Posted by B Cart View Post
    I updated my Gen 3 Glock19 with the Brownells slide a few years ago, but with the numbers you posted, i would probably just sell yours and buy the G19MOS. Sounds like it will be a lot less hassle.

    I have also completely switched to RDS on all my pistols. My only pistol left is my Glock 20 10mm woods gun, but it's harder to get aftermarket slides for those, so it still currently has irons.
    Yes.

    All you guys saying sell and replace are pretty much on track with me. I get two Glock Blue label buys per year and used one replacing a 48MOS I gave to my daughter as a going away present, so I’ll probably begin with the 17/45 MOS to replace my G17. Already have one G19 MOS.

    Thanks.


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    I like my Glocks without finger grooves, so Gen5 upgrade if it was me.

    Buuuuut…..

    I don’t plan to buy a Glock until the direct milled options are available, unless you want the SCS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    Buuuuut…..

    I don’t plan to buy a Glock until the direct milled options are available, unless you want the SCS.
    No doubt. I'm not much of a pistol owner. But I'm on the sideline for a year or two until the bugs are worked out of the RDS revolution. (mounting and sight evolution specifically)

    I wouldn't want to outfit a handful of pistols, and then have to replace them when a better mousetrap is released. And there's no doubt that the best is yet to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    No doubt. I'm not much of a pistol owner. But I'm on the sideline for a year or two until the bugs are worked out of the RDS revolution. (mounting and sight evolution specifically)

    I wouldn't want to outfit a handful of pistols, and then have to replace them when a better mousetrap is released. And there's no doubt that the best is yet to come.

    I see your points and don’t disagree, but my journey this far into red dots has me confident in what moving towards. I simply shoot better with red dot optics, much better, and with the dry fire and range work, I’m not any slower than with irons at this point.

    I’ve currently got a 43X I had milled, three 9MM MOS models (19, 48*2) with dots (one went to my daughter), and I’m putting a dot on a new XDM Elite 10MM. That will be interesting to see how it holds up.

    Most of my dots are Swampfox. Their mil discount is excellent and they have been solid and consistent. One is 3+ years old and I replace batteries once per year. I’ve also got one on a Henry .22 that is working out well. All hold zero since initial adjustment. Had one on my Staccato P and it held fine. Sold the gun to a friend. Had a DPP on a P320 I ran for a while but I don’t like how the Leupold is set up. Didn’t like the Sig either so they are gone but I know they are still functioning fine.

    I’m sure better tech is coming, so I’ll deal with that as needed, but not gonna replace stuff that works.

    My internal voice has been telling me to just hang on to my iron sighted Glocks and add the MOS models slower, which is what I’ll probably do. Probably gonna slip a PDP into the mix too just to see how I like it.

    I appreciate all the inputs. Lots of good perspectives.


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    I believe we have several members now using and pleased with the DeltaPoint Micro. At least worth trying before you sell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    No doubt. I'm not much of a pistol owner. But I'm on the sideline for a year or two until the bugs are worked out of the RDS revolution. (mounting and sight evolution specifically)

    I wouldn't want to outfit a handful of pistols, and then have to replace them when a better mousetrap is released. And there's no doubt that the best is yet to come.
    You may have just saved me some money...been thinking on this too. Thanks.
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