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    Climate Change Realities

    Climate scientists on realty of climate change models we don't hear as it's not the narrative pushed. Balanced and objective discussion here, and the truth, per usual, falls between hyperbole and panic and denial:

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    Recently watched joe rogan pee his pants when a geologist explained to him that 2 degrees change in tempreture is nothing.it was based on deep drilling core samples from iceland, i think. He also explained that TEMPRETURE CHANGES VERY QUICKLY AND NOT OVER LONG PERIODS OF TIME. It was one of the better Rogan shows ive seen.

    His name is Randall Carlson.
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    I tried to follow the science but it simply was not there. I then followed the money, thats where i found the science.

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    Mathematical forecast modeling isn’t magic. In fact, when used to attempt to predict the future, it’s more of a magic trick...

    I’ve done a lot of work with the National weather service during my undergrad days where I helped with modeling the 36 and 72 hour short-term stuff. The amount of data we took in to just get to the medium resolution models was staggering. From satellite data all the way down to good ole fashioned ground-based observers and private citizens with personal weather stations who uploaded their local data to NWS servers.

    Even with this level of actual live activity up to and including a beautiful hires photo from space of the weather system coming together we still only managed 80 to 85 percent accuracy for the 36 hour and 70 to 75 percent accuracy on the 72.

    Toss in the fact that no real long range historical data exist for anything close to a climate study of the size and scope these guys are debating, and I just don’t see how they are claiming the accuracy at the future time frames they are discussing.

    Just look at the mess that’s hurricane prediction. Even with real-time data being sent back via the hurricane hunters we still need literally thousands of ensembles being ran by supercomputers to get anywhere even close to basic predictions such as landfall times and rainfall amounts...
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    GCC is nothing if not a giant Ponzi scam, with the goals being both money and power. Anyone wringing their hands over it is either an idiot or a grifter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    GCC is nothing if not a giant Ponzi scam, with the goals being both money and power. Anyone wringing their hands over it is either an idiot or a grifter.
    This^^^sums it up nicely.
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    Climate change is so transparent it's laughable. It's the classic formula of scare idiots into supporting bad policy... and to the point above give evil more power.

    The sad thing is that there's no shortage of pea brains, and this crap works.
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    Search on climategate, tells you all you need to know about this PT Barnum scam.

    Most people don’t realize this nonsense was debunked long ago.

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    I am not saying manmade climate change isn't real (seems plausible, and most people in the field seem to accept it). But I do know, for a fact, that the industry pushing it has more in common with 80's TV evangelists and Iranian Theocrats than objective science.


    My favorite part of that interview is when he is asked why they should ignore all the other models in favor of his and he says "I don't have a model...this is the actual data."
    Reminder, we don't need to ruin every thread with social/political commentary and thread drift. Sometimes, it's okay to just talk about the topic.

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    Global climate change is real' the earth's record proves it. Manmade global warming is suspect and the data is riddles with flaws and inaccuracies, made worse by politicization.

    The earth's gonna do what the earth's gonna do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tn1911 View Post
    Mathematical forecast modeling isn’t magic. In fact, when used to attempt to predict the future, it’s more of a magic trick...

    I’ve done a lot of work with the National weather service during my undergrad days where I helped with modeling the 36 and 72 hour short-term stuff. The amount of data we took in to just get to the medium resolution models was staggering. From satellite data all the way down to good ole fashioned ground-based observers and private citizens with personal weather stations who uploaded their local data to NWS servers.

    Even with this level of actual live activity up to and including a beautiful hires photo from space of the weather system coming together we still only managed 80 to 85 percent accuracy for the 36 hour and 70 to 75 percent accuracy on the 72.

    Toss in the fact that no real long range historical data exist for anything close to a climate study of the size and scope these guys are debating, and I just don’t see how they are claiming the accuracy at the future time frames they are discussing.

    Just look at the mess that’s hurricane prediction. Even with real-time data being sent back via the hurricane hunters we still need literally thousands of ensembles being ran by supercomputers to get anywhere even close to basic predictions such as landfall times and rainfall amounts...
    Many of the comments in this thread would suggest they didn't watch the vid, already convinced they know what's happening, door closed to nuance (a seemingly lost idea...) and learning. Anyway, the number of variables they have to plug into those models, run on super computers, to get rough estimates on even a current storm only a few days out, is massive beyond comprehension. Obviously the models are getting better, but they are still just slightly above a WAG beyond even short periods of time as you point out. We need to get passed the BS agendas and back to objective science per that vid and make decisions and policy based on that, but that too now a topic of the culture wars that has creeped into the science domain to the point people, understandably, don't trust it, and that's the true danger we all face.

    But, there's been real push back in the scientific community and related to this suppression of objective debate on these all important topics that impact us all, so maybe there's hope yet.
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