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Thread: Clearly, I need a mental evaluation... I want this festering piece of garbage.

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    Clearly, I need a mental evaluation... I want this festering piece of garbage.

    I don't know why, but I actually want to own a Smith & Wesson Model SW9F. Yes, you read that right. I want the original SIGMA!



    So, what poorly designed flop of a gun do you secretly want and why?

    For me, it is because I came of age as a shooter in the late '90s and grew up in a house of Beretta 92FS Italian Stallions, GLOCK perfection, and S&W Pre-Lock Revolver goodness.

    A gun like the SIGMA never would have been allowed in our stable. Yet I have a dirty taboo lust for one, a deviant craving for such a wretched piece of plastic, made during the sinful days when S&W was owned by Tomkins PLC and the the Klinton Administration said we simple plebs couldn't own magazines greater than 10 rounds.

    Why do I want one? Mostly because it is a relic of that bygone era. A time before the internet is what it is today. Before streaming services and YouTube reviewers. It is from a time when Shotgun News was like the Christmas season Toys R US catalog and reviews only came in two forms.

    Gun rag publications and word of mouth at the local stop 'n rob gun shop where the counter monkeys and hanger-ons would say that as Vietnam era CIA Green Beret Navy SEAL, they tested the SIGMA on a super secret mission to Afghanistan to assassinate Leonid Brezhnev before the gun was made public.

    This was to be S&W's answer to GLOCK and it utterly failed and I like having odd ball pieces in the collection. I like having guns that tried to make it but failed. Especially the odd balls from the '70s, '80s, and '90s.

    But not the cheaply built guns. I'm not talking about guns like a Ring of Fire Saturday Night Special. I mean stuff from legit manufacturers that had commercial flops. The gun version of the Ford Edsel. Guns like the SIGMA or the Colt 2000 and Series 90 Double Eagle. Rifles like the HAC-7 or the Leader T2.

    I have a fascination with those guns. All the "could have beens" but for bad marketing, bad input from lawyers, or just not good enough to be first place.
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    Calico M950......."I come in peace...."

    Loved the helical magazine concept.

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    I had a buddy who bought one of those. Probably never shot it enough to hate it.
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    I have the latest variant (SD9?) that was a gift and kind of got me back into shooting. The trigger is laughably bad and doesn't lock back on empty every so often but I can't recall it ever having a malfunction. The OG Sigma was like a 90% mechanical copy of a Glock even though externally it looked quite different. The extractor looks visually identical as well as the the take-down "levers". My SD has a long ass extractor which I'm sure was a change needed to stop further litigation.


    I only carry it when I'm going somewhere that's a big no-no to carry and I have to leave it in the car.
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    Before the mag ban I thought I needed a pair of hi cap master blasters and 6 mags each. They were the worst two pistols I ever owned and I've owned hundreds over the years. Neither could choke thru a full mag of ball. I hear the new ones are better but with horrendous triggers. Good luck in what you ask for. FWIW the Calico's were a lot of fun.
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    Err...

    So I yeah, I owned a Double Eagle.

    Don't buy the Sigma. It won't satisfy your nostalgia bug. That would be like buying a Yugo cuz: 80's.

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    I bought a Sigma when they first came out, thought it would be a good replacement for my 5904 since, at the time, I was a hardcore S&W fan. I had to send it back to Smith due to light primer strikes, causing failures to fire, which they fixed. After that I never felt fully comfortable carrying it and eventually ended up selling it and buying a Glock.
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    I own 2 AKs and secretly desire a third. I also want a bolt gun in 9.3x62, despite having no plans to kill a buffalo or whatever. I have several .380s, also. And I want a full-sized revolver, despite lack of any practical purpose.
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    Awe yes the reason for the law suit.

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    I am adversely traumatized by the sight of a Stigma. My trust in S&W was destroyed by one of the early manufactured "high-line" .40 Stigmas. I was so proud to own S&W's newest high-tech wonder, in their latest high performance caliber. I suffered from a form of PTSD (Post Traumatic Stigma Disorder), and was unable to resume my relationship with my trusted 686 for many years because of it. One bright side, I traded it off only a few days before the bottom dropped out of it's value. Seriously, it was worth about $300.00 as a trade in, plus extra because I had a number of factory magazines for it. I traded it and a hunnerd doller bill for a new Beretta 96 Centurion. I won that one, the Stigma was auctioned off a few years later when that gun store went out of business because the Manager was embezzling most of the receipts. I got to see it in the display case writhing in agony because nobody wanted it.

    I waited until the M&P had been out over five years before I bought another S&W.
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