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    Dumb Idea:

    If I were President, couldn't I just create a mechanism to pardon anyone charged/convicted of an NFA violation, effectively circumventing the NFA altogether?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutofBatt3ry View Post
    If I were President, couldn't I just create a mechanism to pardon anyone charged/convicted of an NFA violation, effectively circumventing the NFA altogether?

    Drinking thoughts, by OutofBatt3ry
    Well, according to the constitutional center the presidents pardon power only has two limits.

    The power is granted with only two textual limits: the President may only pardon crimes “against the United States” and may not issue pardons “in Cases of Impeachment.”
    President may not preemptively immunize future criminal conduct. In Schick v. Reed, the Court recognized that an exercise of clemency may include any condition which does not otherwise offend the Constitution,
    So it seems to me you could pardon anyone ever convicted of an NFA violation without question. You could probably tell (order, via EO?) the ATF and federal prosecutors to simply stop charging people with NFA crimes because you are going to pardon them immediately.
    Last edited by tn1911; 11-26-22 at 19:24.
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    I think that under the principle of prosecutorial discretion, he could tell the ATF not to go after NFA violations. At least the Dems have done that on certain things in the past. Hell, the whole dreamers thing is built on that concept.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    If you're president why not just eliminate it all together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by titsonritz View Post
    If you're president why not just eliminate it all together?
    With an EO you can regulate commerce like Bush 41 did with the 89 import ban but you can't create a domestic ban without Congress which is why a bill had to be signed in 34, 68, 86 and 94 after getting through congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutofBatt3ry View Post
    If I were President, couldn't I just create a mechanism to pardon anyone charged/convicted of an NFA violation, effectively circumventing the NFA altogether?

    Drinking thoughts, by OutofBatt3ry
    Just dismantle and defund the atf, let the states deal with it as they wish.

    Do the dea too. They already dont enforce signed law at their will (definition of tyrany), just get rid of it.
    Last edited by MegademiC; 11-28-22 at 18:09.

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