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    Not that I spt an anti-brace ruling in the conventional sense, however, I hope a ruling soon comes down that clearly makes unlawful what has become known as the "brace". Reason being I want to see the number of rats jumping ship to either go the SBR route, 16" barrel, other. The "known" numbers will likely be greatly exceeded by those who quietly curl up into the fetal position. Am already seeing those "online" who are purchasing barrels, etc to become compliant servants. Sad but fully expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamashooter View Post
    Not that I spt an anti-brace ruling in the conventional sense, however, I hope a ruling soon comes down that clearly makes unlawful what has become known as the "brace". Reason being I want to see the number of rats jumping ship to either go the SBR route, 16" barrel, other. The "known" numbers will likely be greatly exceeded by those who quietly curl up into the fetal position. Am already seeing those "online" who are purchasing barrels, etc to become compliant servants. Sad but fully expected.
    If that is intended as an insult to me, I could care less what you think.
    Last edited by Armybrat; 12-05-22 at 09:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamashooter View Post
    Not that I spt an anti-brace ruling in the conventional sense, however, I hope a ruling soon comes down that clearly makes unlawful what has become known as the "brace". Reason being I want to see the number of rats jumping ship to either go the SBR route, 16" barrel, other. The "known" numbers will likely be greatly exceeded by those who quietly curl up into the fetal position. Am already seeing those "online" who are purchasing barrels, etc to become compliant servants. Sad but fully expected.
    My appetite for schadenfreude doesn't include citizen gun owners otherwise not engaged in criminal activities.

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    Put some Magpul stuff on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bamashooter View Post
    Not that I spt an anti-brace ruling in the conventional sense, however, I hope a ruling soon comes down that clearly makes unlawful what has become known as the "brace". Reason being I want to see the number of rats jumping ship to either go the SBR route, 16" barrel, other. The "known" numbers will likely be greatly exceeded by those who quietly curl up into the fetal position. Am already seeing those "online" who are purchasing barrels, etc to become compliant servants. Sad but fully expected.
    Dude. You’re better than this.

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    Thordston cheek rest


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    I think the real reason the brace was something pursued by the ATF is that the anti-gunners have issues everytime they try to define ‘Assault Weapons’ for their bans. What do AWBs and braces have to do with each other? The ATF with the pistol brace point system was trialing a system to award points TO ALL GUNS.

    So instead of the anti-gunners showing their intellectual gun asses everytime they try to codify in law what an “AW” is, the ATF would just come out with a points system. Then states and other legal entities could just titrate down the point total. So you pass an “AWB” with enough points so that it only outlaws machine guns and SBRs. And require registration of all the guns a few points below the ban level, Then the next legislative cycle, you just wratchet it down a couple of points. Slowly boil the frog and you can tailor the point level to the local to keep things moving.

    Brilliant plan.

    The problem is that Bruen kind of blows that out of the water. So is the ATF going to go through all this work, for a system that won’t get to the end point they want. AND if they make the claim that all these AK/AR pistols are really SBRs, they will definately trip SCOTUS’s “common use” standard and now you’ve got a chip out of the NFA.

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    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that can be used for lawful purposes, and are not dangerous AND unusual or subject to historical restriction from the founding era.

    It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    I think the real reason the brace was something pursued by the ATF is that the anti-gunners have issues everytime they try to define ‘Assault Weapons’ for their bans. What do AWBs and braces have to do with each other? The ATF with the pistol brace point system was trialing a system to award points TO ALL GUNS.

    So instead of the anti-gunners showing their intellectual gun asses everytime they try to codify in law what an “AW” is, the ATF would just come out with a points system. Then states and other legal entities could just titrate down the point total. So you pass an “AWB” with enough points so that it only outlaws machine guns and SBRs. And require registration of all the guns a few points below the ban level, Then the next legislative cycle, you just wratchet it down a couple of points. Slowly boil the frog and you can tailor the point level to the local to keep things moving.

    Brilliant plan.

    The problem is that Bruen kind of blows that out of the water. So is the ATF going to go through all this work, for a system that won’t get to the end point they want. AND if they make the claim that all these AK/AR pistols are really SBRs, they will definately trip SCOTUS’s “common use” standard and now you’ve got a chip out of the NFA.

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    Yep. All of this.
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    No insult intended to anyone. Perhaps poorly worded. I have never had an appetite for gutlessness. And I consider equipment "contingencies" for future 2A-impacting decisions the epitome of gutlessness. Subservient compliance vs defense of constitutional rights and protections from tyranny. Times have changed, people have changed. Sometimes a line needs to be drawn and held at all costs. I reckon in the grand scheme of things, that "line" is an individual decision. This particular "line" is just another one of mine.

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    I’ll bet you are a lot of fun at social gatherings, and I don’t care what your “lines” are.

    My new pistol is intended for being passed on to one of my two grandsons, and the upper will give him the choice of how he wants to configure it.
    Already gave his dad my Colt LE6920 which will go to one or the other. Never fired that gun myself - it sat in the safe for five years before I gifted it away.
    I did shoot the S&W Sport a little before gifting it to my other son.
    ARs do not interest me that much.
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