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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    So if I put a 16" upper on my Colt 6933 it is no loner a registered SBR and I must reregister it put the 11.5" upper back on it?

    That contradicts everything I have ever been told by NFA branch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgeib View Post
    What Todd.K said.
    I guess every time I clean my SBRs I unregister them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    The registry is to administer the tax. Your SBR is either tax paid or illegal.

    You didn’t un-pay the tax when you put a 16” upper on it. So you don’t possess an SBR that you didn’t pay tax on when you put the 11.5” back.
    Works for me. But some folks are throwing around some bizarre ideas.
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    I think many are very confused as to what the laws, rules, and regulations say and mean.

    Once a registered SBR, always a registered SBR, NFA rules & regulation always apply, unless you unstamp it. Taking your SBR with 20" barrel across State lines, that's your risk, just hope nobody questions the firearm.

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    I asked this question years ago and IRAQGUNZ pointed me to the ATF regulations that specifically outlined this exact situation, stating, in short, that once you remove the features that make it an NFA item, it no longer falls under the purview of the ATF. You still have a registered lower, but not an NFA item as configured. Travel freely.

    Furthermore, no one would have any reasonable cause to examine a 20" rifle to the point of questioning whether it is on the NFA registry unless the person holding it said something to the contrary.

    In any case, for anyone reading this thread who has questions... it is published somewhere on the ATF website. I apologize for not digging it up, I just don't have the time. I just wanted people to know it's there somewhere and you can look it up for yourself. It didn't seem complicated to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullz View Post
    I asked this question years ago and IRAQGUNZ pointed me to the ATF regulations that specifically outlined this exact situation, stating, in short, that once you remove the features that make it an NFA item, it no longer falls under the purview of the ATF. You still have a registered lower, but not an NFA item as configured. Travel freely.

    Furthermore, no one would have any reasonable cause to examine a 20" rifle to the point of questioning whether it is on the NFA registry unless the person holding it said something to the contrary.
    Common sense huh? Those beaten for coloring outside the lines will never get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullz View Post
    I asked this question years ago and IRAQGUNZ pointed me to the ATF regulations that specifically outlined this exact situation, stating, in short, that once you remove the features that make it an NFA item, it no longer falls under the purview of the ATF. You still have a registered lower, but not an NFA item as configured. Travel freely.

    Furthermore, no one would have any reasonable cause to examine a 20" rifle to the point of questioning whether it is on the NFA registry unless the person holding it said something to the contrary.

    In any case, for anyone reading this thread who has questions... it is published somewhere on the ATF website. I apologize for not digging it up, I just don't have the time. I just wanted people to know it's there somewhere and you can look it up for yourself. It didn't seem complicated to me.
    It's not a matter of being questioned. What if you are in an incident, and investigating starts. Finding out your registered serial # is a NFA item is gonna cause you some grief, even if you re-configured your SBR with 20" bbl and thought that was ok to travel around as if it's no longer a NFA SBR item.

    ATF is a big trap. Most of their stuff is written in "as configured" view. But then they'll trap you by saying "once NFA item, always NFA item, unless you un-stamp it".

    I not arguing for such BS compliance, I just pointing out that when the crap in the BS pot boils down you're gonna be in a bad position. Recall that ATF on a daily basis releases statements that included "all our previously decisions, determinations, and letters have been recinded".
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    I'd personally pick a non-registered set up if I was to have some reason to travel out of state. It's just a much easier replacement if for some reason the gun was held because I had to use it.

    Currently, the ATF angle doesn't worry me in the slightest. But things can get worse. Rigged elections? Corrupt FBI? A tyrannical agency isn't that unrealistic anymore.
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