CDC says Firearms are the Leading Cause of Death for Children

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

You should always supply a source with such a claim/thread.

On a quick run through the article I think inherent in their data is that this is being driven by violence and illegal activities. I think the key is that the title of the paper and the way it is being presented in the press is that there are kids being killed in mass shootings and that is what is driving us. That is not supported by the data.

[WillBrink]

On a quick run through the article I think inherent in their data is that this is being driven by violence and illegal activities. I think the key is that the title of the paper and the way it is being presented in the press is that there are kids being killed in mass shootings and that is what is driving us. That is not supported by the data.

In this particular case, that seems the major issue to my read. The source paper tells one side of the story, but that one side is not incorrect either.

[SteyrAUG]

So for anyone interested, right from the CDC page.

Unintentional fall deaths

Number of deaths: 42,114

Motor vehicle traffic deaths

Number of deaths: 40,698

Unintentional poisoning deaths

Number of deaths: 87,404

Drug overdose/drug poisoning deaths

Number of deaths: 91,799
Deaths per 100,000 population: 27.9

All poisoning deaths

Number of deaths: 97,034
Deaths per 100,000 population: 29.5

All firearm deaths

Number of deaths: 45,222
Deaths per 100,000 population: 13.7

Drowning is a leading cause of death for children.

In the United States:

More children ages 1–4 die from drowning than any other cause of death.
For children ages 5–14, drowning is the second leading cause of unintentional injury death after motor vehicle crashes.

[Exiledviking]

I read somewhere that Fentanyl far outpaces guns for deaths in young people. But, we can't talk about that because "the border is secure" and Fentanyl is not coming thru the "secure" border.
The above numbers sure seem to support the high number of deaths from Fentanyl.

[titsonritz]

So for anyone interested, right from the CDC page.

Unintentional fall deaths

Number of deaths: 42,114

Motor vehicle traffic deaths

Number of deaths: 40,698

Unintentional poisoning deaths

Number of deaths: 87,404

Drug overdose/drug poisoning deaths

Number of deaths: 91,799
Deaths per 100,000 population: 27.9

All poisoning deaths

Number of deaths: 97,034
Deaths per 100,000 population: 29.5

All firearm deaths

Number of deaths: 45,222
Deaths per 100,000 population: 13.7

Drowning is a leading cause of death for children.

In the United States:

More children ages 1–4 die from drowning than any other cause of death.
For children ages 5–14, drowning is the second leading cause of unintentional injury death after motor vehicle crashes.

Don't cloud the issue with facts and statistics. Guns are bad.

[SteyrAUG]

Don't cloud the issue with facts and statistics. Guns are bad.

I didn't even try and fudge the numbers by removing lawful shoots, that is ALL firearm deaths (good, bad or otherwise) and it still is right about there with accidental deaths by falling and half of deaths by poisoning. The only thing that surprised me is total number of drownings seem way down. Usually pools are in the top 3 competing with auto deaths and drug deaths.

So if you do drugs and drive, might as well buy a gun and kill yourself.

[WillBrink]

I didn't even try and fudge the numbers by removing lawful shoots, that is ALL firearm deaths (good, bad or otherwise) and it still is right about there with accidental deaths by falling and half of deaths by poisoning. The only thing that surprised me is total number of drownings seem way down. Usually pools are in the top 3 competing with auto deaths and drug deaths.

So if you do drugs and drive, might as well buy a gun and kill yourself.

The breakdown used to be like 60% thugs shooting each other, 30% suicides, and the rest misc stuff, much of which is lawful. They have criminals shot by LE in there too I believe. I think the newer breakdown has higher % from suicide, but have not looked. Legit accidental deaths from legit children is (surprisingly) rare, and accidents in general pretty rare considering how many guns are in untrained hands and all.

[chuckman]

In my fair city the number of shootings and deaths by shooting have gone up substantially over the past couple years, the biggest victims are black teenagers and young adults. And they weren't shot because they were having arguments playing chess, either. It is due to gang activity.

Working in our ER we might see three kids a year, under 15, from accidental shootings. It is not unheard of to get three gang-bangers a night.

The raw data might be right, but without context the statistics are totally biased and skewed. I do not think that's an accident.

[utahjeepr]

In my fair city the number of shootings and deaths by shooting have gone up substantially over the past couple years, the biggest victims are black teenagers and young adults. And they weren't shot because they were having arguments playing chess, either. It is due to gang activity.

Working in our ER we might see three kids a year, under 15, from accidental shootings. It is not unheard of to get three gang-bangers a night.

The raw data might be right, but without context the statistics are totally biased and skewed. I do not think that's an accident.

Exactly. Sizeable pockets of our cities have become third world, complete with warlords, "child soldiers", and all the other trimmings. Damn mess is even celebrated in pop culture and defended by many on the left. Preaching to the choir here, I know.

These "facts" are just gonna be used as more justification for violating the rights of the law abiding, but leaving the criminals armed to the teeth.