Will M4C and the GOP finally Dump Trump after his call to terminate the Constitution?

[Hank6046]

So I can't stand Never Trumpers, but at the same time...you don't run a guy who LOST last time.

Lots of presidents have been sure they actually won, Nixon for example. Even with massive voter fraud, Kennedy won by 0.17% of the popular vote. But you follow the example of Nixon, Al Gore was the first to not act presidential.

But Trump kind of has a point, I will let Thomas Jefferson say it better than anyone ever could.

“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends [life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness] it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government...”

But that is the right of the "people", not Trump, and the "people" ain't gonna do it just because Trump thinks he got robbed.

If you are still so pro Trump that you WANT him to win the next election you really need to take a second look.
If you are still so anti Trump that you WORRY about him winning the next election you really need to take a second look.

Everyone needs to be far more concerned with the GOP nominating a better candidate than Trump, because if they don't, we aren't gonna win anyway.

Well said, my step dad as inept as he is once told me that he supports Republican policy but never Republican candidates and I think this rings true, especially considering the last midterms

[gsd2053]

Its funny to me that the left leaners are the only ones on the board who read Trump's posts, but they still feel driven to take the conservative members to task over what he says.

Andy

Rent free

[tn1911]

There is nothing in the constitution that addresses a stolen election. Especially what to do 2 years into one with the thief in the WH.

Yeah just wait till the average low information voter finds out about article II Section 1 of the constitution...

Historically, there has been an even more dizzying variety in the systems developed in each state. In the first presidential election, five state legislatures—in Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, New Jersey, and South Carolina—themselves simply designated presidential Electors without having any popular election at all.

All of these variations are allowable under the constitutional design.

https://constitutioncenter.org/the-c...ii/clauses/350

[Miami_JBT]

The only positive to come from Trump’s post is the statement the White House issued:

“The American Constitution is a sacrosanct document that for over 200 years has guaranteed that freedom and the rule of law prevail in our great country. The Constitution brings the American people together – regardless of party – and elected leaders swear to uphold it.
It’s the ultimate monument to all of the Americans who have given their lives to defeat self-serving despots that abused their power and trampled on fundamental rights. Attacking the Constitution and all it stands for is anathema to the soul of our nation, and should be universally condemned. You cannot only love America when you win.”

For all the times the left has wiped their collective asses with the Constitution, they’re forced to actually defend it as sacrosanct.

Delish!

Trump also said take the guns first, due process later.

He treats the Constitution like a stage prop for thr play called government. No different than many other politicians.

[hotbiggun42]

Trump also said take the guns first, due process later.

He treats the Constitution like a stage prop for thr play called government. No different than many other politicians.

Trump did say that after it came out that a school shooter had been visited by LE several times before the shooting. But you know this.
Damn it man.

[SteyrAUG]

Trump also said take the guns first, due process later.

He treats the Constitution like a stage prop for thr play called government. No different than many other politicians.

And he said this "No limits on guns; they save lives". (Jan 2016), unlike MOST politicians. But honestly he's been all over the map. He's pro gun, he's anti gun and now he's pro gun again. In fact he was recently at a NRA convention this year and he took some flak for attending because it was in Texas after Uvalder, the same crap Daniel Defense was demonized for NOT doing, Trump did.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-draws...ooting-1711155

So he's kind one of those pro gun people who "supports the second amendment BUT..." which makes him no different, worse or better than a LOT of people posting here.

If anyone is interested in his actual stated positions over time.

https://www.ontheissues.org/donald_t...tm#Gun_Control


Remove weapons from dangerous individuals, not all Americans. (Mar 2018)
Arm public school employees to prevent school shootings. (Mar 2018)
Opposes arming school teachers against school shootings. (Mar 2018)
Teachers with gun training should be allowed to carry. (Feb 2018)
End gun-free zones in schools & military bases. (Jan 2017)
Opposes restrictions on right to bear arms. (Nov 2016)
We need Supreme Court to stand up for the 2nd Amendment. (Oct 2016)
Appoint Supreme Court judges who respect 2nd amendment. (Oct 2016)
No guns for people on terrorist watch-list. (Sep 2016)
Buying lots of ammunition & body armor should be a red flag. (Jun 2016)
Mass shootings are due to a huge mental health problem. (Jan 2016)
No limits on guns; they save lives. (Jan 2016)
Keep enemies of the state away from guns. (Nov 2015)
Make concealed-carry permits valid across all states. (Nov 2015)
Gun-free zones are target practice for sickos. (Oct 2015)
1998: Against gun laws; only bad guys would have guns. (Oct 2015)
Gun ownership makes US safer, not more dangerous. (Oct 2015)
Mental health more important than gun control. (Oct 2015)
Laws are ineffective in preventing gun violence. (Oct 2015)
Gun violence is inevitable; regulations won't help. (Oct 2015)
Protect the Second Amendment, but address mental health. (Sep 2015)
Take guns from good people & bad people have target practice. (Jul 2015)
A very strong person on the Second Amendment. (Jun 2015)
I am against gun control. (Feb 2011)
Dems and Reps are both wrong on guns. (Jul 2000)
For assault weapon ban, waiting period, & background check. (Jul 2000)

[AndyLate]

And again, we are beating a dead horse. Majority of Republicans on the board do not support a third run by Donald Trump.

Ignoring that, I would rather have someone like the Don who waffled on guns that any Democrat. The Dems don't waffle - they have been quite transparent in their desire for another AWB along with any other way they can restrict the 2nd Amendment.

Andy

[hotbiggun42]

And again, we are beating a dead horse. Majority of Republicans on the board do not support a third run by Donald Trump.

Ignoring that, I would rather have someone like the Don who waffled on guns that any Democrat. The Dems don't waffle - they have been quite transparent in their desire for another AWB along with any other way they can restrict the 2nd Amendment.

Andy

That is true but I do support a third run. Desantis should wait for a 2028 run running against Trump will not be good for his political future.

[AndyLate]

I wish you were smart enough to see that I’m a true conservative, not a mouth breather that moans every time Trump cries about being attacked. But as they say, you can wish in one hand and shit in the other… so I guess we are stuck with each other. To pass time you could research how many times Trump supported anti-gun legislation.

I am smart enough to see you say you are a conservative while you push the false narrative that the DNC influencing Twitter is not a 1st Amendment issue because "the DNC is not the government" when the FBI testified in court that they met regularly with Twitter to push the same narrative as the DNC.

With conservatives like you, who needs liberals?

Andy

[gaijin]

Trump should stick with being the “King maker”, and forget about another Presidential run.