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    Sounds like marketing BS. You can have the best material by on-paper specs, but if you machine it wrong, treat it incorrectly, or its full of large NMIs, you end up with a shitty product.

    Not saying this sucks, just how it comes across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    Sounds like marketing BS. You can have the best material by on-paper specs, but if you machine it wrong, treat it incorrectly, or its full of large NMIs, you end up with a shitty product.

    Not saying this sucks, just how it comes across.
    The marketing is word-smithing. Most likely it's 9310, but can be one of many proof steels that are stronger than C158. Many arms use C158, Ruger uses something better tha C158


    "9310 is a AISI standard grade of tool steel that makes it about ~7% stronger than "mil-spec" Carpenter 158 steels, when appropriately treated. Its commonly used in the aerospace industry where toughness, impact strength, and solid wear characteristics are required."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwayneZ View Post
    The marketing is word-smithing. Most likely it's 9310, but can be one of many proof steels that are stronger than C158. Many arms use C158, Ruger uses something better tha C158


    "9310 is a AISI standard grade of tool steel that makes it about ~7% stronger than "mil-spec" Carpenter 158 steels, when appropriately treated. Its commonly used in the aerospace industry where toughness, impact strength, and solid wear characteristics are required."

    Ruger lists bolt material in their other rifles as 9310 so I doubt thats what it is in the SFAR otherwise it would be listed in the specs.
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    I think you are making an assumption from a user rather than a manufacturer’s understanding of the market.

    It’s a near marketing necessity for AR bolts.

    A different marketing team can want to hype a new and proprietary gun. Or they may be keeping it under wraps to make it harder to copy, both irrespective of the material being regular or exotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    I think you are making an assumption from a user rather than a manufacturer’s understanding of the market.

    It’s a near marketing necessity for AR bolts.

    A different marketing team can want to hype a new and proprietary gun. Or they may be keeping it under wraps to make it harder to copy, both irrespective of the material being regular or exotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    Ruger lists bolt material in their other rifles as 9310 so I doubt thats what it is in the SFAR otherwise it would be listed in the specs.
    What makes you think some new marketing word-smithing was not used?

    Maybe it's not 9310, maybe it is. Why stray away from a commonly used well-understood 9310 alloy? As I mentioned, there are other better than C158 and perhaps better than 9310.

    Maybe just call Ruger and ask.
    Last edited by DwayneZ; 01-17-23 at 10:10.

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    Are most/all AR bolts forged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    I dont have one.
    Your perspective and assumptions are as a consumer, not a manufacturer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EzGoingKev View Post
    Are most/all AR bolts forged?
    No, they are machined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by constructor View Post
    No, they are machined.
    Makes me wish Geissele would sell just his enhanced bolt by itself.

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