CQBL-1 + illuminator vs Dbal D2

[JediGuy]

I can sell my mostly unused CQBL-1 (nonilluminator get) and pick up a new DBAL D2 for relatively not much more money. I’d make almost $300 on the CQBL sale, actually.

Am I gaining that much? Does anyone opt out of the D2 due to increased weight, etc?

[1168]

What illuminator are you currently using? Or do you not have one yet?

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[JediGuy]

What illuminator are you currently using? Or do you not have one yet?

I do not. Had been planning on a Luna Elir until Russia did the thing, considered an Arisaka EX 250 on an Echo mount. Not in a rush, since I don’t have NODs yet. But someone wants to give me almost $1000 for the CQBL, so…made me wonder.

[1168]

I do not. Had been planning on a Luna Elir until Russia did the thing, considered an Arisaka EX 250 on an Echo mount. Not in a rush, since I don’t have NODs yet. But someone wants to give me almost $1000 for the CQBL, so…made me wonder.

Well, when you get NODs, the DBAL D2 will serve you well, at a good price point. Its competitive with the MAWL-C, although the switching and dialing the illum is not as quick. Its the only civ laser that I’ve used that is comparable in performance to the MAWL-C It is, however, a heckin’ chonker, and the battery compartment is in the front, which may require you to remove it or your front sight to change batteries, depending on your setup.

I absolutely recommend it, unless you can get a FP PEQ-15. MAWL pricing has grown from “too much” to “totally unreasonable”.

Alternatively, you can keep your CQBL, and get a separate illuminator, but that leaves you with multiple switches and all kinds of shit on the front of your gun, and the separate illuminators that I’ve tried have been underwhelming, and best suited to flooding at short range. The BE Meyers KIJI looks appealing, though.

There are some newer devices that look appealing, but I do not yet have personal experience with them.

The warranty on my PERST-3 sure got useless fast, so I feel you on the Luna.

[JediGuy]

The Kiji looks cool, as does Phantom Hill’s stuff. Maybe I’ll hold for a bit.
Then again, $1237 for the DBAL seems pretty decent.

[Ironman8]

I run a CQBL with 3v Malkoff EX IR-250. I would like to move to a Kiji at some point if I can ever find one in stock.

Why I like this system so much is that it is lighter than a D2 but you can also drop the illuminator off when you’re not using nods. I have mine on a Bobro QD scout mount and I can pop it on or off in a few seconds. This is on a GP rifle that isn’t dedicated to NV so I use it just as much (really more) in daylight as I do under nods. Another benefit is I can move that one illuminator around to multiple rifles if I have similar setups. The dual lead ModButton makes for a pretty simple switching solution although I have used the TAPS Sync as well.

To summarize, I personally don’t find that the D2 does anything that the CQBL/illuminator can’t at less weight, versatility, or actual function (IR illuminator).

[RHINOWSO]

I run a CQBL with 3v Malkoff EX IR-250. I would like to move to a Kiji at some point if I can ever find one in stock.

The CQBL with Kiji 1-3 is awesome.

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The CQBL with Kiji 1-3 is awesome.

For $2K and that combo weighs 10oz more than the D2

[Ironman8]

For $2K and that combo weighs 10oz more than the D2

How so? How does your math work out to that?

*Referring to your weight estimate. CQBL has been discontinued (as far as I know) but they were pretty prevalent on the used market for $5-600. There are other options for a IR laser only to pair with a Kiji such as an OTAL or Holosun units that wouldn’t work up to your $2k claim.