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    We have green energy efficient mandated industrial vent hoods at my work. The steam overflows from them when grilling or using the huge vats to boil water since the hoods can't keep up. The old hoods did a pretty good job of venting. The facilities manager said he could make the green hoods work better but they would no longer be green.

    The house I moved into a couple years ago had an energy efficient vent hood installed by the previous owner. I can't boil a decent size pot of water without the steam overflowing. It's really pathetic.

    Our energy efficient dryer has an eco setting. On eco it takes 1:20 to dry a load. Take it off eco and now it's 45min per load. I checked all the other settings and they are exactly the same for eco and regular. No change in temp, tumble speed, anything that I can check the settings on. The only difference is eco mode is almost twice as long to dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john armond View Post
    We have green energy efficient mandated industrial vent hoods at my work. The steam overflows from them when grilling or using the huge vats to boil water since the hoods can't keep up. The old hoods did a pretty good job of venting. The facilities manager said he could make the green hoods work better but they would no longer be green.

    The house I moved into a couple years ago had an energy efficient vent hood installed by the previous owner. I can't boil a decent size pot of water without the steam overflowing. It's really pathetic.

    Our energy efficient dryer has an eco setting. On eco it takes 1:20 to dry a load. Take it off eco and now it's 45min per load. I checked all the other settings and they are exactly the same for eco and regular. No change in temp, tumble speed, anything that I can check the settings on. The only difference is eco mode is almost twice as long to dry.
    The majority of home vent hoods dont actually vent, they just suck up as much as they can then distribute what they did right above your head.
    The hoods I have at work do a good job but suck t sucking the fumes of fryer grease burning off which I care about more.

    they aint green energy because its not a home thing, its industrial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john armond View Post
    We have green energy efficient mandated industrial vent hoods at my work. The steam overflows from them when grilling or using the huge vats to boil water since the hoods can't keep up. The old hoods did a pretty good job of venting. The facilities manager said he could make the green hoods work better but they would no longer be green.

    The house I moved into a couple years ago had an energy efficient vent hood installed by the previous owner. I can't boil a decent size pot of water without the steam overflowing. It's really pathetic.

    Our energy efficient dryer has an eco setting. On eco it takes 1:20 to dry a load. Take it off eco and now it's 45min per load. I checked all the other settings and they are exactly the same for eco and regular. No change in temp, tumble speed, anything that I can check the settings on. The only difference is eco mode is almost twice as long to dry.
    I don’t think that the vent hood at my house does anything at all. There are also too few lights in my house, so I use lamps.

    Buddy of mine has a house that has zero lights in the room that would normally be designed as a formal dining room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    I don’t think that the vent hood at my house does anything at all. There are also too few lights in my house, so I use lamps.

    Buddy of mine has a house that has zero lights in the room that would normally be designed as a formal dining room.
    home hoods pull a little stove top air and just move it back in the room, like taking a fan and putting it over the stove directing air up and in the open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidneyious View Post
    home hoods pull a little stove top air and just move it back in the room, like taking a fan and putting it over the stove directing air up and in the open.
    I must have a preban, I can see it jetting out the top of my roof through a little chimney thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidneyious View Post
    home hoods pull a little stove top air and just move it back in the room, like taking a fan and putting it over the stove directing air up and in the open.
    Mine has a vent through the middle of it that can be seen through the artistic cuts in the side. I have traced that ducting through the attic and up through the roof. If rain gets pushed at the correct angle and strength it has even dripped through the ducting and hood on to the stovetop. This one definitely vents to outside. Well I should say tries to vent.

    As far as the commercial units we have at work, green energy might not be the correct name, but they got replaced along with about everything else when we had a huge energy efficiency retrofit project. All the lights were changed to LED. Nearly all the light switches were changed to motion sensor ones that turn off after a period of non motion. All the toilets were replaced (have to flush 2x now after a strong piss), and the vent hoods replaced, along with a bunch of other stuff. This is a .gov building, so that probably had something to do with requirements for all the changes.

    I don’t mind the LED lights one bit, but everything else sucks.

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    We live in an old 1938 bungalow. Factory housing for the Douglas Aircraft plant. Gas water heater, gas stove, gas dryer, and our furnace is the old school millivolt system. Power goes out and we can still cook and heat the place. We added a grandma unit in the back and, against the recommendations and wishes of the city, tied it into our gas line so that unit is also gas plumbed. No way we're going to pay the kilowatt rates they want to run inefficient electrical appliances. Even if they triple my gas bill, it will be cheaper than electric. California has kiboshed any new natural gas hookups on new construction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidneyious View Post
    home hoods pull a little stove top air and just move it back in the room, like taking a fan and putting it over the stove directing air up and in the open.
    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I must have a preban, I can see it jetting out the top of my roof through a little chimney thing.
    Residential vent hoods and the vents on over the stove microwaves can be configured to vent exterior IF you have the ducting built in to your home. They don't draw enough to really work very well though. In my experience 0.0% of them are actually effective without having an additional duct fan plumbed in. A remote mounted fan connected to a fanless hood is really the way to go (higher end stuff), then you don't have to listen to it.

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    Can't complain about the price of food, if you can't cook any! Must be why the UN wants us eating bugs - raw, apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Do the lids lock? How do they get around the gov mandated efficiency crap?

    At my house I hang everything dry except socks and drawers.
    According to one website.. I find this all to be true.

    Speed Queen Side Steps Restrictive Government Regulation
    The Speed Queen washing machines have successfully side stepped government regulation using good old fashioned american ingenuity. The Speed Queen washing machine’s “Normal / Eco” wash setting satisfies the Department of Energy’s government regulations and technically qualifies it as a High Efficiency washing machine; however, all other preset cycle settings on their washing machines Fills the Entire Tub with Water. The “Normal / Eco” cycle setting uses less hot water to save energy and includes a spray rinse to reduce water consumption. There are 9 other preset cycle settings on their high end electronic model and 5 on their base model (that fills the entire tub). There is No Lid Lock that prevents you from opening the lid at any time to stop the cycle and verify the claims of a full tub of water. The Speed Queen top loader washer manual does recommend the use of HE soap; however, I suspect that this is only in support of the “Normal / Eco” setting.

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