Now Biden wants your gas stove

[SteyrAUG]

According to one website.. I find this all to be true.

Thank you. My next purchase.

[SteyrAUG]

I can't find the article I read however it said the gas stove issue is about indoor air pollution and it listed how other countries are approaching the subject.
The writer stated the end goal is to get sensors into homes to monitor "air pollution". Along with that goes monitoring indoor temperatures and controlling thermostats.

Probably be eves dropping on conversation as well.

Gonna be fun when they install that in an apartment where 12 smokers live.

[titsonritz]

DC Drunk AOC...

[titsonritz]

Now the turds want your gas furnaces, too. Zero shits given on cost impact to the people or whether they freeze to death when the power goes out in the winter.

Let's Go Brandon.

[AKDoug]

Now the turds want your gas furnaces, too. Zero shits given on cost impact to the people or whether they freeze to death when the power goes out in the winter.

Let's Go Brandon.

These people are completely out of touch. In my world we don't even have gas. Our three choices are electric, wood, or heating oil. Heating oil saves me about 30% over electric for heating. I wish I could get gas and save even more money. I'd really like electricity that costs 1/4 what it does now and we could talk. Build me a nuclear reactor or STFU.

[AKjeff]

These people are completely out of touch. In my world we don't even have gas. Our three choices are electric, wood, or heating oil. Heating oil saves me about 30% over electric for heating. I wish I could get gas and save even more money. I'd really like electricity that costs 1/4 what it does now and we could talk. Build me a nuclear reactor or STFU.

No propane?

We had propane in SE, as well as the options you listed.

[.45fan]

Now the turds want your gas furnaces, too. Zero shits given on cost impact to the people or whether they freeze to death when the power goes out in the winter.

Let's Go Brandon.

Not to side with the liberals but modern gas furnace's require electric for the igniter and the blower motor.
We have several rental properties and have had to replace a few over the years.

[SomeOtherGuy]

Not to side with the liberals but modern gas furnace's require electric for the igniter and the blower motor.
We have several rental properties and have had to replace a few over the years.

Yeah. I've had a lot of combustion furnaces: oil, natural gas, propane. The newer high efficiency gas/propane models work fine, and actually make exhaust piping much easier because the exhaust gas is so cool you can use PVC pipe.

The downsides are small. It won't work without electricity, the ignitors wear out after 5 years or so - but is a cheap and easy to replace part, and the exhaust vent can get plugged with snowdrifts or in blizzards, so it has to be shoveled out if you're in a severe snow area. (This only really applies if you get lake effect or mountain snow.) All pretty small. We have a purely mechanical wood stove for backup heat.

The attempt to outlaw gas cooktops is BS, but the rule on furnaces looks like a mountain out of a molehill.

[.45fan]

Yeah. I've had a lot of combustion furnaces: oil, natural gas, propane. The newer high efficiency gas/propane models work fine, and actually make exhaust piping much easier because the exhaust gas is so cool you can use PVC pipe.

The downsides are small. It won't work without electricity, the ignitors wear out after 5 years or so - but is a cheap and easy to replace part, and the exhaust vent can get plugged with snowdrifts or in blizzards, so it has to be shoveled out if you're in a severe snow area. (This only really applies if you get lake effect or mountain snow.) All pretty small. We have a purely mechanical wood stove for backup heat.

The attempt to outlaw gas cooktops is BS, but the rule on furnaces looks like a mountain out of a molehill.

We use natural gas and I have a high efficiency Lennox that's about 3 years old and it has PVC exhaust. 2 pipes go out the side wall of the house on is exhaust and the other intake. I agree on having to shovel drifts away from the PVC, I learned that the hard way.

[AKDoug]

No propane?

We had propane in SE, as well as the options you listed.

Propane is what runs my range, but it's even more expensive than electricity per BTU in my location, so I guess that's why it was cleared from my brain as a heat source.