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Thread: Dept of Justice announces the new rules on Stabilizing Braces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Upcountry View Post
    Serious question, trying (and mostly failing, 200+ pages is ridiculous) to understand all of this: Assuming the ATF cannot waive a tax that is established by statute, how is the regulatory banning of the braces, which deprives the owners thereof of all the economic value of the item, not a "taking" which requires compensation by the government? Shouldn't ATF be making plans to compensate all brace owners for the value of the now banned items? Particularly since the manufacturers and owners of the items relied upon the ATF's guidance in the past?
    The brace is not banned. You can still use it on SBR's or rifles if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    The brace is not banned. You can still use it on SBR's or rifles if you want.
    Gotcha, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    The brace is not banned. You can still use it on SBR's or rifles if you want.
    Even if they say it was banned:

    https://sites.law.duke.edu/secondtho...-stock-owners/

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    I'm disappointed in the "mainstream" narrative about this. At least amongst "conservatives". The government is not supposed to be run by whims and fancy. Good one moment and illegal the next. The ATF opened this can, they should have to eat whatever they found inside. They undermined SBR rules with their original determination. They built on it with later decisions. An industry was born. Now they don't like it. Too bad. Eat those worms.

    I don't have any braced firearms, so I don't care much personally. It's up there with bump stocks as far as I am concerned, but principle matters.

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    Isn't this kind of tyranny the reason the founders created the 2A?

    It's pretty useless though given that so many Americans have succumbed to the culture of compliance for security.

    Expect more tyranny until there's a mass Exodus of this culture of compliance because the constitution and lawsuits aren't going to change the hearts and minds of the tyrants.
    Last edited by prepare; 01-29-23 at 09:29.
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    Everyone planning on getting a free tax stamp IT'S A TRAP. First ATF is setting up a separate data base to process brace registration, why, second if you are delayed 88 days then you are automatically denied and in possession of a unregistered SBR. So totally trust the ATF they have your best interest at heart, also don't forget that every foreign made pistol imported capable of taking a brace was really always a rifle and must be surrendered or destroyed.

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    Here's Mike's take...
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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    The brace is not banned. You can still use it on SBR's or rifles if you want.
    Yeah, you can do a "clone" of the good ol' days.
    Gettin' down innagrass.
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    If the gun tubers were smart they would all run braces on their SBR's just to phuck with the alphabets
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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    Here's Mike's take...
    Do yall agree with this gents assessment that the ATF says there are 3 million braces out there, but he says around 40 million?
    WOW thats unreal if true,
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