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    ATF History

    A brief history of the ATF by Ammo.com
    https://ammo.com/articles/atf-histor...lphabet-agency
    Last edited by prepare; 01-21-23 at 18:35.
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    Good article, thanks for sharing.

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    More than a few errors and omissions.

    For example the first machine guns made "non transferable" were any import machine guns following the 1968 GCA. Machine guns were still legal AFTER 1986, they were simply regulated as had been done in 1934 and 1968 but the further registration of domestic machine guns was closed.

    Also both Ruby Ridge and Waco were not exclusively ATF shit shows. Rube Ridge began when US Marshals killed Sam Weaver and it was a FBI HRT sniper who killed Vicki Weaver. FBI HRT also played a huge role at Waco after the initial ATF raid went sideways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    More than a few errors and omissions.

    For example the first machine guns made "non transferable" were any import machine guns following the 1968 GCA. Machine guns were still legal AFTER 1986, they were simply regulated as had been done in 1934 and 1968 but the further registration of domestic machine guns was closed.

    Also both Ruby Ridge and Waco were not exclusively ATF shit shows. Rube Ridge began when US Marshals killed Sam Weaver and it was a FBI HRT sniper who killed Vicki Weaver. FBI HRT also played a huge role at Waco after the initial ATF raid went sideways.
    wasnt the ATF the ones that started both of those though?

    with ruby ridge, i read they set weaver up by having him cut shot guns down and one was .5” too short?

    then waco….full auto fire was heard on the property and atf was sent in to “investigate”?

    either way, when i was a young man, janet reno’s reign of terror was my eye opener to the way things were heading in the country. hasn’t changed course yet, much.

    except states have gotten better ccw laws. thats been a bright spot for gun owners.

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    I learned a lot about all this stuff from reading John Ross's masterpiece Unintended Consequences. Its the only book I keep in my safe and the one I most recommend to new (and old) gun owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyt16 View Post
    I learned a lot about all this stuff from reading John Ross's masterpiece Unintended Consequences. Its the only book I keep in my safe and the one I most recommend to new (and old) gun owners.
    Also likely never to be printed again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGuy View Post
    Also likely never to be printed again.
    Yeah, exactly why I keep it in my safe. Last I checked it was difficult to find even a used copy for under a hundred dollars. Still, I consider it required reading for every red-blooded American. A flawless blend of fiction and non-fiction.

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    Get is straight, it the AFT...just ask their boss...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamStoun View Post
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