CCP invasion?
TOP 3:
1. SCAR 17
2. DD4V7
3. Geissele Super Duty 11.5” SBR
Would all depend upon what I needed and where I was at. All 3 have been 100% reliable for me and run suppressed quite well.
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CCP invasion?
TOP 3:
1. SCAR 17
2. DD4V7
3. Geissele Super Duty 11.5” SBR
Would all depend upon what I needed and where I was at. All 3 have been 100% reliable for me and run suppressed quite well.
Basically, the AR has just too much going for it.
For me, the HK-91 pattern would probably be a close second. It's just incredibly durable and the iron sights just work for me. Just an absolute bet your ass Road Warrior doom world rifle.
AK
Obviously the SCAR/HK416 are also awesome.
Reminder, we don't need to ruin every thread with social/political commentary and thread drift. Sometimes, it's okay to just talk about the topic.
Steyr AUG with a Trijicon TR24 LPVO. If by the time that wears out/breaks down and we’re winning, I switch to a M4. If we’re losing, I switch to whatever Chicom piece of junk I can find.
Yea, I'll play
SR15 with 1-8, with can would be my goto
But just about any of my SBR's would fill the niche, Colt6945, LMT10.5... with Aimpoint RDS and cans
Sidearm would be HK P30L or P226
I would want to keep a 6.5CM MWS handy, because I can but the AR15 is good enough for 95% of such needs.
I don't own a flame thrower and for that I SUCK!
PB
Last edited by Pappabear; 02-07-23 at 17:19.
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A Colt, BCM or DD rifle, and one of my Glock G45s.
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primary my Colt AR , then a Yugo M70 folder for secondary , with Glock 17 side arm
"there will be two types of people in this world , those without toilet paper , and those with enough ammo to protect their toilet paper"
The M4 v. bigger battle rifle discussion seems to be an all-or-nothing immediate argument drill for many.
Infantry is about shoot-move-communicate. Formations need to do the whole OODA thing -- kill people and break things faster than your opponents with surprise, speed, and violence of action.
There's been no analysis that EVERYONE in the squad or platoon needs a battle rifle.
The 1942 US Army infantry squad had a Browning Automatic Rifle and a Springfield with a 4.5X telescope. Today's squad is much smaller (to shoe-horn into a Bradley fighting vehicle) -- and the BAR has been replaced by a SAW and the Springfield with an HK M110A1 (that the shooter receives no formal training on).
"Overmatch" is lip service. We have an M4 carbine capable of shooting 400 meters with an ACOG -- even farther with heavier, in-system standard 77s (Mark 262 and the Marine Corps competition load) that nobody wants to pay for or establish qualification tables for, out to 500-600 yards.
M995 5.56 armor piercing is an excellent-superior (but horrendously expensive) and capable cartridge for weapons we have across the fleet, today. The problem is China sits on the main component (tungsten) of that bullet.
This was really meant to be more about battle ready rifles VS civilian grade rifles regardless of caliber or type.
Short of going the NFA/Tax Stamp route, there isn't really a difference between the two (B-R/civilian). Sure there are some older/former (actual) semiautomatic battle rifles out there like the M1 Garand, but for modern day "battle ready" use?... Hell - Most states have some form of legislation that restricts or otherwise limits their law abiding citizenry from obtaining or using anything that could be considered "battle ready" depending on your definition of the term.
If we're really talking about the average citizen (who has nothing), It would actually be better for them to go and purchase a semi-auto pistol and learn to maintain & use it, rather than for them to seek out a "battle ready" rifle, but that's for another discussion...
For me, "battle ready" is more about knowing how to go with whatever you've got, than knit-picking the details. I chose to go with an A4 clone because that is what I have the most experience with using & maintaining. Yes they are long & heavy, but I am used to the weight, and deadly accurate at using them within their effective range. Still unlike the average civilian, I also carry a Beretta M9A1 for close quarters/immediate response use, as well as a decent fighting knife should all else ever fail, but that's just me, and I wouldn't recommend that for the average civilian because:
1 - It is a heavy setup & takes a long time getting used to & becoming proficient with.
2 - It is a rather expensive (and ever increasingly rare) setup which most civilians either can't afford to purchase, or would have difficulty sourcing many of the components.
& lastly, it would be better for the average civilian (who has nothing) to only have to focus on one simple firearm, rather than having that focus split among multiple weapons/options.
MA2
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