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    The amount of money going to Ukraine is very, very small by percentage. That said, it's $800 million, $500 million more than requested. Most of any budget is manpower and operations, about 65% of the budget, and there's also a build-in for inflation. So if you want to bitch about the high pay of all of those 231 flag officers, there it is. There's an increase for high-capital procurement; ships and aircraft (about 25% of the budget). There's an increase for housing and upgrades.

    More concerning to me as an investor is $200 million for 'international security cooperation programs' and establishing a center for security studies in irregular warfare.' $10 mill here, $10 mill there, that shi* adds up.
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    Chuck, we're sorta on the same page--devolving authority frees up budget for needed things, and a lot of those little things you cite the money will only go to various think tanks that are Dem front groups to give kickbacks to D officials through. The defense budget and the ROI from it really needs to be gone through line-by-line stem-to-stern, but even that is a job that would take years if not decades of overcoming various special interests squealing like raped hogs.

    There's also the knowledge-loss from Up Or Out, but it's been made crystal clear that filthy civilians aren't wanted here so I'll save that for another time and another discussion... after I re-evaluate my continued presence here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    but it's been made crystal clear that filthy civilians aren't wanted here .
    Who said that? The defense budget should be of interest to civilians. But we should use factual information in that discussion, not bullshit from talk shows. “Has the Covid shot caused a mass exodus?” would have gotten a different type of response (no) than trying to tell us how it is and then continuing to dig that hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Chuck, we're sorta on the same page--devolving authority frees up budget for needed things, and a lot of those little things you cite the money will only go to various think tanks that are Dem front groups to give kickbacks to D officials through. The defense budget and the ROI from it really needs to be gone through line-by-line stem-to-stern, but even that is a job that would take years if not decades of overcoming various special interests squealing like raped hogs.

    There's also the knowledge-loss from Up Or Out, but it's been made crystal clear that filthy civilians aren't wanted here so I'll save that for another time and another discussion... after I re-evaluate my continued presence here.

    Peace, fellas I'm out, enjoy the Presidents' Day weekend.
    I agree it definitely needs to be a line item budget, and like any government budget, there's sooooooo much pork. We needs ships, check. We need aircraft, check. We need people and places for them to live, check. Do we need 231 admirals and generals?? And those 'center for this' and 'center for that' make me dubious, much less those expenditures that stroke certain congressmen and senators because they 'need' it (spending) in their districts. And the every-two-year uniform change with the army, every four or so with the navy. All those 'little' things add the hell up.

    You can find defense spending by state: https://oldcc.gov/dsbs-fy2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    There certainly isn’t anything now. Seperations purely for COVAX have been halted. There are second and third order affects that are much more nuanced but no one should have been kicked out for it in the last month-ish and won’t going forward until the next policy reversal.


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    8400 servicemembers seperated is the number Congress is using. That is 0.32% of the military force of 2,586,835. Its insignificant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    8400 servicemembers seperated is the number Congress is using. That is 0.32% of the military force of 2,586,835. Its insignificant.

    Andy
    Good find, I hadn’t seen the number. I also wonder how well defined it is. There’s a difference between started separation and completed. Then, the number we’ll never truly know, how many of them weren’t value added? The one E4 I started to separate wasn’t a problem at that point, but I was worried he may be heading that way.

    Either way, I agree, insignificant.


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