"UFOs: Investigating the Unknown" on Nat Geo

[rushca01]

Disappointed it’s not on the Disney plus streaming app.

[hotbiggun42]

Im re watching Battlestar Galactica. Ailens are real.

[WillBrink]

Disappointed it’s not on the Disney plus streaming app.

Probably cuz it's not a Disney show? Most basic cable has NG.

[rushca01]

Probably cuz it's not a Disney show? Most basic cable has NG.

Nat Geo is part of Disney + streaming, Disney owns nat geo. If you have Disney plus you will see nat geo listed as an option to watch their shows.

ETA: Got it on DIRECTV streaming app. Watching the first episode.

[WillBrink]

Nat Geo is part of Disney + streaming, Disney owns nat geo. If you have Disney plus you will see nat geo listed as an option to watch their shows.

ETA: Got it on DIRECTV streaming app. Watching the first episode.

Ah, got it. Enjoy the show.

[SteyrAUG]

That's not needed to admit the reality of their existence regardless of their origin, and it seems we are there.

I don't think the evidence is definitive at this point. But I agree that unless these things are easily explained, and assuming there isn't some other explanation that is being deliberately withheld, some investigation needs to be going on. But governments decide where the money gets spent and an "objective" investigation isn't likely to make anyone rich so probably won't happen.

[WillBrink]

I don't think the evidence is definitive at this point. But I agree that unless these things are easily explained, and assuming there isn't some other explanation that is being deliberately withheld, some investigation needs to be going on. But governments decide where the money gets spent and an "objective" investigation isn't likely to make anyone rich so probably won't happen.

The first person, org, company etc that gets the tech that can do what those UFO/UAP do, will be one rich mo fo. They have been doing serious study a long time, while pretending they don't acknowledge they exist and ruining the career of anyone who said otherwise, and now that aspect seems to be going away. Whether that's all a smoke screen remains to be seen. It almost does not matter as they momentum is too great to change the course and now it's no longer fringe to show real open interest, and the various people in that show, from prior SECDEF to Congressmen, to mainstream scientists, etc shows that.

[tn1911]

I don't think the evidence is definitive at this point. But I agree that unless these things are easily explained, and assuming there isn't some other explanation that is being deliberately withheld, some investigation needs to be going on. But governments decide where the money gets spent and an "objective" investigation isn't likely to make anyone rich so probably won't happen.

It’s either going to end up something we humans can possibly wrap our heads around, ET’s from another planet, perhaps even on the upper exotic end as time travelers from many thousands of years in the future. Or.... it’s going to be so bizarre and so extreme that maybe our minds simply cannot understand it.

That could run the lists from extra dimensional to the supernatural.

[SteyrAUG]

The first person, org, company etc that gets the tech that can do what those UFO/UAP do, will be one rich mo fo. They have been doing serious study a long time, while pretending they don't acknowledge they exist and ruining the career of anyone who said otherwise, and now that aspect seems to be going away. Whether that's all a smoke screen remains to be seen. It almost does not matter as they momentum is too great to change the course and now it's no longer fringe to show real open interest, and the various people in that show, from prior SECDEF to Congressmen, to mainstream scientists, etc shows that.

So that is interpretation of data, not evidence. And that always brings me back to "extraordinary clams." So like most religions, I guess I'm holding at agnostic until some truly testable and falsifiable evidence comes along.

[SteyrAUG]

It’s either going to end up something we humans can possibly wrap our heads around, ET’s from another planet, perhaps even on the upper exotic end as time travelers from many thousands of years in the future. Or.... it’s going to be so bizarre and so extreme that maybe our minds simply cannot understand it.

That could run the lists from extra dimensional to the supernatural.

And THAT I can accept, because it's not a definitive declaration of evidence. There is some nutty stuff out there, and so far NONE OF IT tops the observer effect of stars millions of light years from each other acting in predictable ways according to quantum mechanics simply because we observed them.

The implications of that are unreal. Either the entire universe changes it's nature simply because we observe it OR our ability to accurately perceive the universe is in doubt OR something else we don't even have an explanation for is going on. And if the universe is somehow aware that people on Earth are looking at it and changes it's own nature every time we do it, well that makes alien life forms cruising our planet kind of small potatoes.

I'm honestly unsure what I believe about these unidentified objects. While I believe life exists almost without doubt elsewhere in the universe (even with the "rare earth" modifications to the Drake equation), I believe complex advanced intelligent life forms would be more rare simply based on probability and what we see on Earth. The ability for such life forms to travel around the universe is even further limited by the probability that they could evolve to that level give the life span of a given planet to sustain such life forms and of course the problems we understand with near light speed travel or anything above.

And finally, and this is the big one, I don't think earth or human beings are so special as to warrant "visitors", it is just another form of us believing we are somehow the most important thing in creation that of course we'd be visited by advanced life forms capable of doing so and of course they'd be so fascinated by us they'd zoom our military aircraft and show off their flying skills to trailer parks across the globe.

I also think given the challenges of traveling to this planet and the amount of time our species has been here, if Earth ever did get visited they were probably looking at dinosaurs who inhabited this planet for about 165 million years vs. the almost 1 million years that our oldest ancestors may have been around.