"UFOs: Investigating the Unknown" on Nat Geo

**tn1911** · 02-24-23, 20:49

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

And finally, and this is the big one, I don't think earth or human beings are so special as to warrant "visitors", it is just another form of us believing we are somehow the most important thing in creation that of course we'd be visited by advanced life forms capable of doing so and of course they'd be so fascinated by us they'd zoom our military aircraft and show off their flying skills to trailer parks across the globe.

I also think given the challenges of traveling to this planet and the amount of time our species has been here, if Earth ever did get visited they were probably looking at dinosaurs who inhabited this planet for about 165 million years vs. the almost 1 million years that our oldest ancestors may have been around.

Well to you and I humans are mostly wastes of oxygen, but to another civilization especially any scientific mission we’d be worthy of study and scientific cataloging. Imagine the first human astronauts to Mars and they find some exceptionally simple fungus to another fungus I’d be a waste of time but to us it’d be an amazing find worthy of study.

What if simple cellular life and even complex life is fairly common throughout the universe. After all the basic building blocks of life are very common. But higher complex life and especially intelligent life is very rare. In those cases of course they’d be fascinated by us and look to study our origins.

**SteyrAUG** · 02-24-23, 21:00

Originally Posted by tn1911

Well to you and I humans are mostly wastes of oxygen, but to another civilization especially any scientific mission we’d be worthy of study and scientific cataloging. Imagine the first human astronauts to Mars and they find some exceptionally simple fungus to another fungus I’d be a waste of time but to us it’d be an amazing find worthy of study.

What if simple cellular life and even complex life is fairly common throughout the universe. After all the basic building blocks of life are very common. But higher complex life and especially intelligent life is very rare. In those cases of course they’d be fascinated by us and look to study our origins.

I have to believe any life form capable of traveling here from "there" has seen things dramatically more interesting than homo sapiens. That is kind of my point, I don't think we'd rate.

Even with all the probabilities that keep the number of potential "complex and highly intelligent" life forms statistically low, I still think we'd be on the lower end of the "interesting" curve.

**tn1911** · 02-24-23, 21:02

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

I have to believe any life form capable of traveling here from "there" has seen things dramatically more interesting than homo sapiens. That is kind of my point, I don't think we'd rate.

Even with all the probabilities that keep the number of potential "complex and highly intelligent" life forms statistically low, I still think we'd be on the lower end of the "interesting" curve.

Maybe we’re just entertainment, like the Truman Show but with nuclear weapons and alcohol!

**Averageman** · 02-24-23, 21:10

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

I have to believe any life form capable of traveling here from "there" has seen things dramatically more interesting than homo sapiens. That is kind of my point, I don't think we'd rate.

Perhaps it's just like going to the Zoo for them?

**tn1911** · 02-24-23, 21:18

Originally Posted by Averageman

Perhaps it's just like going to the Zoo for them?

**SteyrAUG** · 02-25-23, 00:24

Originally Posted by tn1911

Maybe we’re just entertainment, like the Truman Show but with nuclear weapons and alcohol!

https://southpark.cc.com/episodes/sa...-season-7-ep-1

**The Dumb Gun Collector** · 02-25-23, 00:38

My guess is any Alien that can travel across the galaxy can probably observe us remotely without coming here.

**WillBrink** · 02-25-23, 07:19

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

So that is interpretation of data, not evidence. And that always brings me back to "extraordinary clams." So like most religions, I guess I'm holding at agnostic until some truly testable and falsifiable evidence comes along.

The performance is not a claim but a verifiable reality many time over now. Religion is based on faith, radar, vids, combined with highly qualified eye balls, is not. That they exist is no longer in question. The only question is what they are.

Now it's time to stop gubment level denial and get on with the open research as to what they are.