"UFOs: Investigating the Unknown" on Nat Geo

[SteyrAUG]

Humans always consider themselves the center of everything literally and figuratively.

I don't disagree. It is why nearly all of our belief systems begin with us being some kind of special creation / being. Obviously a big part of that is our capacity for abstract thought itself which seems to be unique to our species. Ironically the belief that we are being visited, if ever proven true, would virtually eliminate our special status which is why the other crowd of "believers" are completely opposed to such ideas as intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.

[utahjeepr]

I'll be honest. I don't pay a lot of attention to UFO stuff. I don't know what evidence is real, what ain't, and what the likely answers are. Could be I just don't wanna know.

Overall I figure there has gotta be other life "out there". It's the "coming here" part I have serious doubts about. I mean I hope there is other life out there. If this ant hill is the pinnacle of it all that would actually kinda suck.

[SteyrAUG]

I'll be honest. I don't pay a lot of attention to UFO stuff. I don't know what evidence is real, what ain't, and what the likely answers are. Could be I just don't wanna know.

Overall I figure there has gotta be other life "out there". It's the "coming here" part I have serious doubts about. I mean I hope there is other life out there. If this ant hill is the pinnacle of it all that would actually kinda suck.

I would only add, it would be amazingly cool to prove it is real in my lifetime, but I think we are probably gonna create real world Jurassic Park from DNA that is 70 million years old before we prove alien life is visiting us.

But I'll take either one.

[WillBrink]

I don't disagree. It is why nearly all of our belief systems begin with us being some kind of special creation / being. Obviously a big part of that is our capacity for abstract thought itself which seems to be unique to our species. Ironically the belief that we are being visited, if ever proven true, would virtually eliminate our special status which is why the other crowd of "believers" are completely opposed to such ideas as intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.

And likely one reason why so much for so long has been withheld from us, knowing a large portion of the population with freak the F out.

[WillBrink]

I'll be honest. I don't pay a lot of attention to UFO stuff. I don't know what evidence is real, what ain't, and what the likely answers are. Could be I just don't wanna know.

Overall I figure there has gotta be other life "out there". It's the "coming here" part I have serious doubts about. I mean I hope there is other life out there. If this ant hill is the pinnacle of it all that would actually kinda suck.

Then consider watching the show in the OP and see what you find there for convincing evidence.

[tn1911]

Congressman Says Alien UFO Tech Is Being 'Reverse Engineered' in Secret



https://www.newsweek.com/congressman...neered-1786068

It keeps getting weirder!

[WillBrink]

Congressman Says Alien UFO Tech Is Being 'Reverse Engineered' in Secret



https://www.newsweek.com/congressman...neered-1786068

It keeps getting weirder!

Typical of people being sheep and lemmings and attention seekers, we have gone from no one wanting any part of it because the gubment had made sure it was a career killer to even talk about it, to everyone wanting to be involved in the hot new topic people are talking about and getting attention. I'm amazed to see the latter happen in my life time, among the noise, we may actually get some answers as what is zipping around in our air space with total impunity.

The reverse engineering thing (claimed) has been going on since at least WWII, so a yawn for anyone who has followed the topic.

[SteyrAUG]

And likely one reason why so much for so long has been withheld from us, knowing a large portion of the population with freak the F out.

Not sure I buy that common narrative either.

We went from a belief that the universe was steady state and infinite to rapidly expanding and all of the implications that came with it.

We accepted the potential for an exchange of thermonuclear weapons.

We came to accept the numbers of people that were subjected to industrialized murder in Europe during WWII.

Proof of life elsewhere can't be much worse. And while there was much kicking and screaming, during the renaissance it was finally accepted that the sun, not the Earth, was the center of our solar system.

I really don't think the government is sitting on any "knows for certain / has made contact" evidence either. I do think in many instanced they try and downplay events while "they" attempt to investigate and understand them.

[WillBrink]

Not sure I buy that common narrative either.

We went from a belief that the universe was steady state and infinite to rapidly expanding and all of the implications that came with it.

We accepted the potential for an exchange of thermonuclear weapons.

We came to accept the numbers of people that were subjected to industrialized murder in Europe during WWII.

Proof of life elsewhere can't be much worse. And while there was much kicking and screaming, during the renaissance it was finally accepted that the sun, not the Earth, was the center of our solar system.

I really don't think the government is sitting on any "knows for certain / has made contact" evidence either. I do think in many instanced they try and downplay events while "they" attempt to investigate and understand them.

I have no doubts a large % of the people will lose their chit on learning they're not alone in the galaxy for various reasons. How many and for how long I don't know. I vacillate between someone knowing exactly what they are up to actual contact, to none of them know either and they don't want admit they/we are helpless to do anything about them.

[SteyrAUG]

I have no doubts a large % of the people will lose their chit on learning they're not alone in the galaxy for various reasons. How many and for how long I don't know. I vacillate between someone knowing exactly what they are up to actual contact, to none of them know either and they don't want admit they/we are helpless to do anything about them.

I always find it useful to remember this is the same government that was unable to conceal a blowjob.

Think about the multiple levels of ongoing cooperation that would be required to keep "alien technology at Area 51" quiet. There is just no way somebody wouldn't burn the political capital for personal promotion. They back door each other over less shit every week and frequently at a cost to national security.

Think about the exit from Afghanistan that armed the Taliban in a way that we haven't done since we were trying to help them kill Russians back in the 80s. Apart from somehow trying to blame it on Trump, they didn't even attempt any kind of serious cover up. That is how much they don't care if they F everything up from beginning to end so if they knew "for sure" we had alien artifacts, they'd 100% use it.

Even Trump wouldn't have been able to keep his mouth shut for 4 years. The US government having alien artifacts or other solid evidence is exactly the kind of shit he was hoping to learn upon becoming president and it would have been on Twitter within 24 hours. Trump would have easily convinced himself that releasing the information was in the nations best interest.

And should it ever happen, 45% of the population would be "I knew it", 45% of the population would declare "it's BS, they are lying to us" and 10% would never really even understand what they were being told. The reality of alien artifacts would be "amazing" for a month and then it would be like GPS, they German explorer who found Troy and every kid 12 years old walking around with what used to be a desktop computer 20 years ago on his damn phone.

The hustle to figure out how to make money from the new revelation would be the only dramatic reaction. On the upside it just might be interesting enough to shift gears away from climate change to "alien awareness."