"UFOs: Investigating the Unknown" on Nat Geo

[WillBrink]

58:50 he says "as many people know the CIA and some of those organizations have remote viewers who use consciousness to see remote places in the future." Sure bub. Next body thetans I suppose. This guy sounds like the equivalent of a honey trap for any nuts with anti-authoritarian leaning. Maybe he's recruiting patsys.

Ask yourself if what he says is true why is he still alive?

We know the CIA studied and worked on remote viewing via the The Stargate Project , claimed it was all shut down as it didn't work out. Maybe it did, and they never shut it down? I don't know.

[WillBrink]

Oh I did watch it all, now I’m watching him on JRE. But it was hard to find that episode.

The tech he describes sounds exactly like the stuff Bob Lazar talks about in some detail.

That's true indeed. Didn't Greer claim the JRE program was intentionally made difficult to find? I recall him saying something about that.

[StainlessSteelRat]

We know the CIA studied and worked on remote viewing via the The Stargate Project , claimed it was all shut down as it didn't work out. Maybe it did, and they never shut it down? I don't know.

They only waited 20 years to figure out it "didn't work"

[WillBrink]

They only waited 20 years to figure out it "didn't work"

Or someone is remote viewing Putin taking a dump as we speak.

[StainlessSteelRat]

There's a huge story there if you dig. How much of it is true, is anyone's guess. Same with UFOs. About the only safe bet is that any official statements are bullshit. Or, Putin shit, if you prefer.

[WillBrink]

There's a huge story there if you dig. How much of it is true, is anyone's guess. Same with UFOs. About the only safe bet is that any official statements are bullshit. Or, Putin shit, if you prefer.

That seems to be the one constant we can rely on.

[SteyrAUG]

58:50 he says "as many people know the CIA and some of those organizations have remote viewers who use consciousness to see remote places in the future." Sure bub. Next body thetans I suppose. This guy sounds like the equivalent of a honey trap for any nuts with anti-authoritarian leaning. Maybe he's recruiting patsys.

Ask yourself if what he says is true why is he still alive?

If remote viewing existed in any form at all, the CIA would not have the track record of colossal failures that they do. Might as well employ Wiccans.

[Disciple]

We know the CIA studied and worked on remote viewing via the The Stargate Project , claimed it was all shut down as it didn't work out. Maybe it did, and they never shut it down? I don't know.

This is the same problem again as the claim that extracting zero-point energy has been demonstrable since the late 1800's; if remote viewing or any form of ESP was a real thing there would be evidence for it outside of the CIA, unless it needs UFO tech to make it work which is awfully similar to Russell's teapot. Further he went with the more extravagant claim of remote viewing into the future like the precogs in Minority Report.

If remote viewing existed in any form at all, the CIA would not have the track record of colossal failures that they do. Might as well employ Wiccans.

That too.

[Disciple]

Watch the entire episode. He talks about that in great detail.

OK, I'll finish it, but I am very skeptical at the midpoint.

[SteyrAUG]

They only waited 20 years to figure out it "didn't work"

If you have the funding, you spend the money. Then you get more money next year, so you spend it. They were probably given 20 years to get a "result" and simply spent the money in the meantime.

It's almost the exact equivalent of rich guys who have their wife start a foundation. Sure it's money that is still going away from you, but you can also decide to have foundation meetings and 5 star resorts in wonderful destinations and you can go there to discuss "results." I would imagine 20% of what the CIA does amounts to BS research programs where there is no genuine expectation of a result. If nothing else, they are certainly adept at asking for funding and once you understand how that process works, why wouldn't you see how much funding you can get for whatever.

And once you understand that is the way of things, the government gets far less mysterious.