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    Didn’t imply anything… just was giving more perspective for my post.

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    I'm guessing that, for example, PSA's and DPMS' A4 clones are pretty much identical as far as components?

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    Primary arms sends out this model dropped to $400 occasionally.

    https://www.primaryarms.com/andro-co...r15-rifle-16in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwball View Post
    For the record, the canted front sight post upper was purchased end of October 2020.
    Man that’s recent. I thought they fixed that like 8 years ago

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    BCM upper with free BCG is tough to beat for the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwball View Post
    I have a Colt 6920 and an 11.5” PSA… which is now an SBR.

    The Colt is actually the only AR I bought complete. Mainly got it because we have M4s and 6920s at work. Very happy with it… and actually got it for $899 off PSA. Having a good extra AR never is a bad thing… if you can do it.

    My 11.5” PSA was originally built as a Heat clone. I used an M4 Carbine lower (third position is “burst”). It has a Fostech Echo trigger. Completely a fun gun, but after confirming function, I’d have zero hesitation using it for defense. I do have two sets of forends… one thin and the standard one has an IWC mount with Surefire light (I like options).

    When I got the PSA pistol kit, the front sight post was canted. I got it zeroed, but this is what the rear sight looked like.



    Spoke to PSA via AR15.com, as their CS rep over there does get stuff done. Sent it back and while it isn’t perfect, the zeroed rear sight is pretty close to centered. Gun runs extremely well.

    Also need to consider PSA has really stepped up their QC. Think it really started getting good when the AKs got to GF3. Their original builds… more were prone to issues. Will issues still arise? Yea, they have been really putting out a metric crap ton of firearms over the past couple years. There are A LOT of gun owners who might not be gun owners if it wasn’t for PSA and their availability. Definitely need to give them credit for that.

    Am I saying that PSA guns should be everyone’s go to firearm? Absolutely not. But if someone is on a budget and doesn’t have the funds to purchase something at the Colt level or better… PSA is actually a good value and can serve you well. I do recommend putting it thru it’s paces, and if there are issues… contact PSA to fix it.
    Never in my life have I seen, let alone owned, an AR with a canted front sight and I got my first AR in 1981 and the high water mark of most ARs in my personal collection was something like 42 variants (it's now more like 20). Can't front sights are something I expect to occasionally encounter, but would never buy, on AKs back when they were $300.

    We aren't a commie country where wonky sights are ok and scopes have reticles which travel all over the field of view. That crap is just unacceptable.
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    Who makes a good budget AR15?

    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Never in my life have I seen, let alone owned, an AR with a canted front sight and I got my first AR in 1981 and the high water mark of most ARs in my personal collection was something like 42 variants (it's now more like 20). Can't front sights are something I expect to occasionally encounter, but would never buy, on AKs back when they were $300.

    We aren't a commie country where wonky sights are ok and scopes have reticles which travel all over the field of view. That crap is just unacceptable.
    Agreed. Was the only AR I’ve ever seen that on. Of course we hear horror stories about bad QC with every manufacturer… but I was shocked with it as it is more common with imported AKs (my WASR is actually straight, as is my AK-P).

    If I got a similar issue with the Colt, I’d be pissed… but what more can be done other than send it back? I wouldn’t have the conscience to pawn it off on someone else, unless they were fully aware of it. Only other gun I have with a FSB is my ADCO built NM A4 upper (traded it on my Tavor)… wouldn’t expect it on that.

    But need to also consider that I paid $400 for that PSA pistol parts kit. Receiver… a few odds/ends (to include one of those retro H&R stocks) and a binary trigger… the gun is just a fun toy. Never an issue with any magazine dump or anything else. I understand that some people don’t have the disposable income as I do… so if it’s between a PSA and no gun… I rather the PSA (if they confirm it is good to go).

    Putting the rounds thru it, I feel confident that after adjusting the FSB, it is good to go. Again, it’s not one that I’m going to run as a defensive gun… but wouldn’t hesitate if I needed to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwball View Post
    Agreed. Was the only AR I’ve ever seen that on. Of course we hear horror stories about bad QC with every manufacturer… but I was shocked with it as it is more common with imported AKs (my WASR is actually straight, as is my AK-P).

    If I got a similar issue with the Colt, I’d be pissed… but what more can be done other than send it back? I wouldn’t have the conscience to pawn it off on someone else, unless they were fully aware of it. Only other gun I have with a FSB is my ADCO built NM A4 upper (traded it on my Tavor)… wouldn’t expect it on that.

    But need to also consider that I paid $400 for that PSA pistol parts kit. Receiver… a few odds/ends (to include one of those retro H&R stocks) and a binary trigger… the gun is just a fun toy. Never an issue with any magazine dump or anything else. I understand that some people don’t have the disposable income as I do… so if it’s between a PSA and no gun… I rather the PSA (if they confirm it is good to go).

    Putting the rounds thru it, I feel confident that after adjusting the FSB, it is good to go. Again, it’s not one that I’m going to run as a defensive gun… but wouldn’t hesitate if I needed to.
    If it was me and they can't make it acceptable or replace it, refund my money.

    I bought a Colt Hbar used on GB and it has some FTF issues that I just couldn't trouble shoot no matter what I checked. Sent it to Colt and it came back with a new upper. Keep in mind I was not the original owner.

    It is possible to get a bad example of anything, the difference is how much the manufacturer gives a damn about what they send out.

    Hearing about out of spec KAC receivers from other posters is mind blowing, I'd definitely be sending those to KAC for replacements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Keep in mind I was not the original owner.
    This is why I like some companies more than others.
    Yes I will pay a little more for that peace of mind.

    That said I have purchased outside of that realm a lot recently because quite frankly I wasnt waiting for a restock notification.

    Im still waiting on some places to restock some stuff and its been 3 years.
    I gave up and moved on, if I have to replace it then that means im paying a little more again.

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