CAG will take anyone?

[ABNAK]

The SS has been used by Marine Scout Snipers since the 80's.

Jeez, I'm certainly not all touchy-feely about symbols and words but couldn't they have found a better way to display SS than that? SMH

[ABNAK]

I sure hope not. I'd hope such an elite tribe that is supposed to be noted for attention to detail could have found better insignia to associate themselves with.

Agreed.

[ABNAK]

Last night I ordered "Death in the A Shau Valley: L Company LRRPs in Vietnam, 1969 - 70" by Larry Chambers off of Amazon. It will proudly be added to my military library.

[SteyrAUG]

Jeez, I'm certainly not all touchy-feely about symbols and words but couldn't they have found a better way to display SS than that? SMH

Yeah, I suppose double sig rhunes could arguably be nordic without a NSDAP connotation, but I still think it was a bad idea. Really easy to paint you in a bad light. I mean swastikas are technically buddhist but I don't think anyone in the US military would roll that one and double Sigs are easily the second most recognizable iconography used by the NSDAP.

[WillBrink]

Jeez, I'm certainly not all touchy-feely about symbols and words but couldn't they have found a better way to display SS than that? SMH

Agreed.

Agreed. They had to know better. No one would ever accuse the Marines of being the sharpest tools in the shed (I kid!), but come on...

If I fought in WWII, had relatives who died there (I do), was a Jew, etc, I'd find that a very stupid and poorly thought out choice of visuals, regardless of their intent.

[chuckman]

CMC just completely bulldozed the Marine SS community. It happened for a variety of reasons, but being tone deaf then belligerent over stuff like this was part of the reason.

[WillBrink]

CMC just completely bulldozed the Marine SS community. It happened for a variety of reasons, but being tone deaf then belligerent over stuff like this was part of the reason.

There's woke BS we all reject, and there's using overt Nazi symbolism that's gonna piss people off, and rightly so. Per usual, a little common sense goes a long way. Even the Azov units in Ukraine flag is less overt then that.

[chuckman]

There's woke BS we all reject, and there's using overt Nazi symbolism that's gonna piss people off, and rightly so. Per usual, a little common sense goes a long way. Even the Azov units in Ukraine flag is less overt then that.

When this first became a thing, and rightfully became 'a thing', they were told by friends that they needed to clean up their act and be professional if they wanted a seat at the table to discuss their employment, schools, and TTPs, or CMC and people with no ties to the community will do it for you. They basically said 'piss off.' They stepped on a lot of influential toes that ended up in positions to impact those very things. Now they are all up in arms over it. CMC addresses this in the 2030 plan by basically shifting the argument by saying 'in the new manning paradigm we can utilize SS in a different way and different format, so the traditional way is going away.'

[CRAMBONE]

Thanks for the info, I did not know. So, just for my understanding, are they 'jsoc', or socom and attached to jsoc when deployed? .

Like any other deployment, where your unit is assigned to an in-theater HQ unit. Like east coast 2ndMarDiv battalions being assigned to west coat 1stMarDiv RCTs “in country” and vice versa etc etc. Their home command is USSOCOM and their “in-country” parent HQ is JSOC. Sounds complicated but isn’t as complicated as it sounds.

[SteyrAUG]

When this first became a thing, and rightfully became 'a thing', they were told by friends that they needed to clean up their act and be professional if they wanted a seat at the table to discuss their employment, schools, and TTPs, or CMC and people with no ties to the community will do it for you. They basically said 'piss off.' They stepped on a lot of influential toes that ended up in positions to impact those very things. Now they are all up in arms over it. CMC addresses this in the 2030 plan by basically shifting the argument by saying 'in the new manning paradigm we can utilize SS in a different way and different format, so the traditional way is going away.'

Damn shame. Only takes a couple clueless individuals to f up what was a proud tradition.