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Our SWAT operators were issued 1187 Sage shotguns and I had the opportunity to put them through their paces on several occasions. They were a bit heavy, but felt recoil was light with OO Buckshot and slugs. They were decent running shotguns but would not run on light loads and operated sporadically with Ferret shells.
Even though the Sage was a good weapon, the 870 ran on everything and I feel it was a better all round shotgun. I'd pick either shotgun for problem solving with the right loads.
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The Beretta 1301 seems to be the current favorite among autoloaders.
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For a lot of civillians, shotguns are a firearm they grew up using which makes it a fine choice for HD.
I tried to follow the science but it simply was not there. I then followed the money, thats where i found the science.
Much as I hate to reinforce the stereotype. When I moved back down to Florida in 1990 I knew I'd be living in some questionable areas so I left many of my expensive guns in Iowa with family. My main "deal with shit" gun was a Rem 870, A Norinco "red side folder" which I should have never gotten rid of (but I thought I wanted the Polytech version instead and that they would always be around) and in 1994 I bought a HK USP. It would be a few years later when I finally bought a decent house in a decent neighborhood and started relocating my guns to Florida.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
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