Bug-out gun of sufficient power/range

[Sidneyious]

Main problem is the Midwest rail is discontinued, and there ain't a lot compatible with the QRB takedown kit. Mine has a Midwest Combat Rail Lightweight, just slid on until I can get it in to the smith to lop off the parts that make it incompatible; it rocks a small prism sight until the rail is locked on and it's time to install my coupler device. (There's just no way both pieces will fit in the bag I found when enough spacer is stacked in to keep the optic. Frankly, at its expected engagement range in my ecosystem even the irons are probably unnecessary except ya gotta have SOMETHING.)

There is also the dolos iv8888 was pimping for a lot a few years back, law folder and stuff it in a backpack.
Not as quick but id take it over a pcc or a bullpup because I hate both.

Or just use a sinch strap to hold it to the pack, who cares if its hanging out its a bug out gun.

[henri]

"Bug Out" gun? Apologies for slight post derailment, but the concept of 'bugging out' seems highly highly unlikely to many and all you are is refugee. Stay home. It's safer and you have all your 'stuff' at hand.

[ABNAK]

And what a coinkydink, right as you post that Brownells just blasted out an email announcing a BRN-180S in .300BLK.
https://www.brownells.com/the-trigge...n-180sh-upper/

Now THAT is interesting, although would require a new caliber to my inventory.

What is the brand of brace that looks like the HK side-folders, and will it fit an AR lower? Kind of like this one: https://www.abprototype.com/sb-tacti...k-style-black/

[ABNAK]

"Bug Out" gun? Apologies for slight post derailment, but the concept of 'bugging out' seems highly highly unlikely to many and all you are is refugee. Stay home. It's safer and you have all your 'stuff' at hand.

Yeah I get that, it's a euphemism. Mainly talking about something easily concealed in a backpack (not a rucksack) that is not a PCC. That BRN 300BLK is intriguing, but with the coming brace ban complicates things a bit.

[Diamondback]

BRN180, I wouldn't even mount a tube, just go pure pistol. Maybe add one of those gimmick folding grips like ASDW too.

[Ron3]

And what a coinkydink, right as you post that Brownells just blasted out an email announcing a BRN-180S in .300BLK.
https://www.brownells.com/the-trigge...n-180sh-upper/

I was going to build one of these but read about issues with build quality and functioning. So, I waited.

After a year or two I still read about folks who have sent them in for repair without satisfaction and now I'm reading of issues about soft metal wearing in guns that were working.

I bought a Mini-14 Tactical instead. Don't shoot it much but it's been working just fine. Ruger mags and .223 (instead of 5.56) is best for peak reliability. I enjoy the folding stock.

But I still have a BRN 180 receiver and maybe someday they'll get the uppers right and I'll go ahead with the build. (16 or 18 in.)

[Ron3]

BRN180, I wouldn't even mount a tube, just go pure pistol. Maybe add one of those gimmick folding grips like ASDW too.

I ran some drills with a slung Ap5P (MKE MP5K) for accuracy and time and it did surprisingly well. Very viable tool. It's what it was designed to be, except these days we have nice optics to mount on them and JHP's.

I never got in to .300 blk, but I've read of many guys who went through the trouble of configuring guns to run .300 suppressed only to go to 9x19 suppressed because it does the nearly the same thing for far less money for more training / practice.

You can currently buy a new, excellent AP5P for under $1200 shipped. Great suppressor host. No piston / reliability issues like a tilt-lock pistol and you can put a larger optic on it than you can a "regular" pistol. Low-recoil roller-lock goodness. Mags are handier than rifle mags, too. MKE mags are about $40. The MKE mags don't always feed JHP's well, use HK brand mags for that.

[yoni]

I think we need to define what the need of a bug out bigger than a handgun really is.

Range do we need in the USA range longer than 150 yards?

Is the bug out meaning you are leaving the city and heading out to family and friends in the country? Then why does size matter? The rifle is in your car or truck.

For me I see my 357 sig AR fitting my need for this mission. Same mags and bullets as my pistol. Mags are smaller in size so I can carry more in the same sized bag as if I had a rifle caliber long gun.

[czgunner]

And what a coinkydink, right as you post that Brownells just blasted out an email announcing a BRN-180S in .300BLK.
https://www.brownells.com/the-trigge...n-180sh-upper/

Mine is a gen 1 5.56.

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[mig1nc]

I ran some drills with a slung Ap5P (MKE MP5K) for accuracy and time and it did surprisingly well. Very viable tool. It's what it was designed to be, except these days we have nice optics to mount on them and JHP's.

I never got in to .300 blk, but I've read of many guys who went through the trouble of configuring guns to run .300 suppressed only to go to 9x19 suppressed because it does the nearly the same thing for far less money for more training / practice.

You can currently buy a new, excellent AP5P for under $1200 shipped. Great suppressor host. No piston / reliability issues like a tilt-lock pistol and you can put a larger optic on it than you can a "regular" pistol. Low-recoil roller-lock goodness. Mags are handier than rifle mags, too. MKE mags are about $40. The MKE mags don't always feed JHP's well, use HK brand mags for that.

300blk supers get you most of the way to 7.62x39 with much less blast/flash and less recoil as well.


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