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    The fact that you have people abandoning their own families after seeing what koresh really was doing speaks volumes. Would like to hear from the mom that left after being made a new wife to koresh and what she has to say to her daughter that was forced stay by the dad. Wonder if they even still stay in touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Except for some survivors who were underage girls at the time, did confirm they had sex with him and were basically groomed by the group to see themselves as a "wife."
    What is underage in this context?

    It wasn't that long ago that you could get married at the age of 13 with parental consent.

    I have only watched a couple of episodes so far and I haven't seen conformation amount him being a pedophile (from the folks in the compound).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fedupflyer View Post
    What is underage in this context?

    It wasn't that long ago that you could get married at the age of 13 with parental consent.

    I have only watched a couple of episodes so far and I haven't seen conformation amount him being a pedophile (from the folks in the compound).
    I think 14, but still a kiddie raper in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I think 14, but still a kiddie raper in my book.
    I recall some where younger then that. Either way, if you're an adult man and they are early teen (regardless of the freakin' state laws...), you're a POS. He was a POS all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    I recall some where younger then that. Either way, if you're an adult man and they are early teen (regardless of the freakin' state laws...), you're a POS. He was a POS all around.
    It's all in the context.
    I think he was viewed as a Messiah or a Prophet. So,...
    In some religious beliefs it's not uncommon for a young girl to take vows and bind herself to someone like this. Doesn't have to be physical, purely a deep emotion.
    Mentally squint a bit and consider Catholic Nun's are they not wed to Jesus?

    Now, if that swings the other way, Koresh would then be one of the most dispicable people to have ever walked the Earth.
    A false Prophet who took sexual advantage of the underage children.

    But here's the thing,
    As bad as all of that was, it never saw the inside of a Courtroom, so we will never really know all of that will we?
    My heart breaks for all of those kids.
    All because of wanting to make some headlines and go back to Washington with a notch or two on their belts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    It's all in the context.
    I think he was viewed as a Messiah or a Prophet. So,...
    In some religious beliefs it's not uncommon for a young girl to take vows and bind herself to someone like this. Doesn't have to be physical, purely a deep emotion.
    Mentally squint a bit and consider Catholic Nun's are they not wed to Jesus?

    Now, if that swings the other way, Koresh would then be one of the most dispicable people to have ever walked the Earth.
    A false Prophet who took sexual advantage of the underage children.

    But here's the thing,
    As bad as all of that was, it never saw the inside of a Courtroom, so we will never really know all of that will we?
    My heart breaks for all of those kids.
    All because of wanting to make some headlines and go back to Washington with a notch or two on their belts.
    So here's the thing.

    Nobody here is any kind of fan of Reno / ATF / HRT yet we all have about the same read on Koresh and it isn't because we support the government position or buy into their propaganda. It is because their is a history of Koresh from friends and followers, some who really did think he was jebus with glasses and based upon that information, it really does sound like he was a Class A POS.

    But again, that doesn't justify the actions of Reno / ATF or HRT who created a bad situation and made it worse than anyone could possibly imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    I recall some where younger then that. Either way, if you're an adult man and they are early teen (regardless of the freakin' state laws...), you're a POS. He was a POS all around.
    This is exactly why I bring this up.
    Just the accusation of being a pedo turns the court of public opinion against the "perp".
    Seems to me the 3 letter agencies like to put that out and have probably weaponized currently and in the past.
    Based on what I knew about Waco (before the series) and Janet Reno's DoJ, I'll bet there was a lot of damage control in the media that was absolute lies.
    No, I am not defending Koresh or pedos, just trying to get a better handle on gvment bullshitery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fedupflyer View Post
    This is exactly why I bring this up.
    Just the accusation of being a pedo turns the court of public opinion against the "perp".
    Seems to me the 3 letter agencies like to put that out and have probably weaponized currently and in the past.
    Based on what I knew about Waco (before the series) and Janet Reno's DoJ, I'll bet there was a lot of damage control in the media that was absolute lies.
    No, I am not defending Koresh or pedos, just trying to get a better handle on gvment bullshitery.
    I would agree..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fedupflyer View Post
    This is exactly why I bring this up.
    Just the accusation of being a pedo turns the court of public opinion against the "perp".
    Seems to me the 3 letter agencies like to put that out and have probably weaponized currently and in the past.
    Based on what I knew about Waco (before the series) and Janet Reno's DoJ, I'll bet there was a lot of damage control in the media that was absolute lies.
    No, I am not defending Koresh or pedos, just trying to get a better handle on gvment bullshitery.
    Again, his own people confirmed that one, and I believe that's how they learned of it.
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    I would like to hear more from the under cover they had in the compound.

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