Maybe I’m wrong, but say Koresh was engaged in pedophilia. I think it’s worse being burned alive, but I’ve never experienced either.
Maybe I’m wrong, but say Koresh was engaged in pedophilia. I think it’s worse being burned alive, but I’ve never experienced either.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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Koresh was surely a piece of shit, and I have little sympathy for people mentally weak enough to buy into a crock of shit that Koresh was selling... but the Government's handling of this was horrifying.
"What would a $2,000 Geissele Super Duty do that a $500 PSA door buster on Black Friday couldn't do?" - Stopsign32v
OK, David Koresh was a sicko, baby raping, delusional POS with an apocalyptic Messiah complex. Given.
Some of his followers were fatalistic, "end of the world is nigh", rabid sycophants. Given.
So what brainchild came to the table with, "So let's just see if we can push these nutjobs right over the edge with a daylight raid that plays right into their fantasies and practically guarantees this goes sideways! Worse comes to worse, we dust-off and nuke the site from orbit."
One of the few reasons we have for making a .gov was to protect us from whacky people like Koresh and from Koresh like nuts from taking advantage of even whackier People who were willing to follow him.
When we did all that we never considered that our .gov, the very one we go to for help, would have Janet Reno at the helm. Now when it comes to crazy, Koresh and Reno were about on the same wave length. Both pretty much creeps.
Reno allowed that whole thing to go so far off the rails that a lot of people local to Waco have sympathy for the people who were murdered by the ATF that day.
Not a lot of love overall for the whole messy Clinton mess.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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You know it's unfortunate. Because McVeigh wasn't a super patriot either. He was acting right out of Turner Diaries, only instead of attacking the evil .gov he blew up a building mostly populated by ordinary people lucky enough to have a gov job with decent benefits and a day care. It wasn't full of Janet Reno's and I bet if you polled them anonymously, most wouldn't have been thrilled with their boss any more than the rest of us on most of the jobs we've had. I won't even get into the racist realities of the actual author William Pierce and the mostly racist fantasy he wrote.
And for the longest time, I didn't want to form an opinion on Waco because I didn't want to have any association with the likes of Koresh or McVeigh and neither one of them supported anything I believe in other than we all drink water and breathe air. But that doesn't make Reno or ATF at Waco the good guys either. Both of them seemed really good at killing kids because that somehow protects the rest of us and gives us freedom.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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