Permitless Concealed Only Carry Passes the FL House

[Miami_JBT]

HB-543 (Permitless Concealed-Only Carry) passes the FL House, more will be added to the OP as time goes on.

Rep. Beltran spoke about Open Carry and was told to shut up by Legislative Leadership. Pulling the video right now.

CS/HB 543, 1st Eng. (2023) Public Safety
https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Secti...p;Session=2023
HOUSE - CS passed as amended; YEAS 76, NAYS 32

House Speaker Renner stated he's supportive of Open Carry but used the excuse of there being 160 members of the legislature and not everyone is onboard with advancing gun rights. He even stated that Blue States have Open Carry and then went on to say that Permitless Concealed-Only Carry is still Constitutional Carry.

Voting record



https://www.tampabay.com/news/florid...arry-desantis/



https://www.miamiherald.com/news/pol...273544285.html

[jsbhike]

Comments from other states where portions of exercising the 2a have been decriminalized.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Since DeSantis is on record in support of open carry and is a popular governor, perhaps this would be an ideal time for him to demonstrate a bit of bully pulpit leadership and behind the scenes arm-twisting. Florida has a Republican supermajority in the state legislature. It's not as if DeSantis were POTUS and dealing with a closely divided congress.

Popular governor... supermajority of his own party... should be a cakewalk for a strong leader.

[.45fan]

Since DeSantis is on record in support of open carry and is a popular governor, perhaps this would be an ideal time for him to demonstrate a bit of bully pulpit leadership and behind the scenes arm-twisting. Florida has a Republican supermajority in the state legislature. It's not as if DeSantis were POTUS and dealing with a closely divided congress.

Popular governor... supermajority of his own party... should be a cakewalk for a strong leader.

There are a few FL residents on this forum that are extremely against open carry. I've seen others on other forums that are the same.

If these supposed pro gun people are that anti gun, just imagine what the general public thinks.

I've open carried in the metro Detroit area for over a decade without issues, but they (you know the ones that aren't allowed to open carry where ever they want) must know more about it than those that have lots of experience with it.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Yeah… the “I support the 2A, but…” among gun owners is frustrating.

Personally, I don’t open carry, don’t know anyone who does (other than LEOs or hunting) and don’t remember the last time I saw anyone OC in a city environment. As a personal/practical matter I don’t participate. That said, as a constitutional matter my personal views don’t matter a damn bit. To keep and bear arms is a constitutionally protected right, period.

I think too many gun owners view the 2A through a prism of what’s in their safe or how they personally choose to exercise 2A liberties, and easily dismiss all else via personal bias. Politicians understand this. I think that’s why DeSantis, if asked, will say he supports OC but really isn’t interested in expending any energy on the subject because it’s not widely popular. It’s merely a God given constitutionally protected right that government is forbidden to infringe upon. sigh…

[mattiep321]

Yeah… the “I support the 2A, but…” among gun owners is frustrating.

Personally, I don’t open carry, don’t know anyone who does (other than LEOs or hunting) and don’t remember the last time I saw anyone OC in a city environment. As a personal/practical matter I don’t participate. That said, as a constitutional matter my personal views don’t matter a damn bit. To keep and bear arms is a constitutionally protected right, period.

I think too many gun owners view the 2A through a prism of what’s in their safe or how they personally choose to exercise 2A liberties, and easily dismiss all else via personal bias. Politicians understand this. I think that’s why DeSantis, if asked, will say he supports OC but really isn’t interested in expending any energy on the subject because it’s not widely popular. It’s merely a God given constitutionally protected right that government is forbidden to infringe upon. sigh…

This post is why there needs to be a “like” button in this forum


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