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    I expect to replace gas rings and cam pins, but not hammers. I should rethink that. Any practical way to check for those "metallurgical issues" before it becomes a problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lysander View Post
    Your mileage may vary . . .

    Barrel
    Bolt
    Hammer Spring
    Ejector Spring
    Burst Disconnect
    Extractor
    Extractor Spring
    Gas Tube
    Hammer
    Cam Pin
    Gas Rings
    Sear (Full Auto)
    Semi Disconnect
    Trigger
    Ejector
    Magazine Catch
    Magazine Catch Spring
    Burst Cam
    Burst Cam Spring
    Action Spring
    Ejector Pin
    Extractor Pin
    Firing Pin Retaining Pin
    Gas Tube Pin
    Hammer Retainer
    Buffer
    Sear Spring (Full Auto)
    Upper Receiver
    5 of those failure items are specifically related to full auto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple View Post
    I expect to replace gas rings and cam pins, but not hammers. I should rethink that. Any practical way to check for those "metallurgical issues" before it becomes a problem?
    This is one of the unfortunate consequences of giving out reliability data . . .

    40 weapons, 150,000 rounds of ammunition, at least eight weapons shooting over 18,000 rounds, half of it full auto, and somewhere in all that 4 or 5 hammers break, and of those half of them had an unknown number of round on them before the test started.

    The same goes for all the other parts, really. If you plan on shooting twenty-thousand rounds this year through your one-and-only AR-15, keep a spare hammer at home, otherwise don't get all excited about it.

    As you spotting trouble, yes, you can x-ray them for casting flaws, do a superficial hardness test to see if the carburization was done right and then cut them in half and do a core hardness test to see of the through hardness id correct. Or, you can do what I do, after a few hundred rounds, give the hammer a close examination, if there is no peening, cracking, or other damage, I don't think about it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    5 of those failure items are specifically related to full auto.
    And, a fair number of those parts probably failed due to full auto . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by lysander View Post
    Or, you can do what I do, after a few hundred rounds, give the hammer a close examination, if there is no peening, cracking, or other damage, I don't think about it again.
    Thank you.

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    I just received these from Cryptic Coatings, along with some ejectors, extractor pins and gas key screws. All seem good from what I can see.



    Last edited by 556Cliff; 04-07-23 at 20:24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 556Cliff View Post
    I just received these from Cryptic Coatings, along with some ejectors, extractor pins and gas key screws. All seem good from what I can see.
    I'm curious were these coated? If so, what type of coating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Mamma View Post
    I'm curious were these coated? If so, what type of coating?

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    The pictured extractors are phosphate finished.

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