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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    It is the same concept of putting a PVS-14 on your NON-Dominate eye and using a reflex sight on your Dominate eye. Your Brain will "blend" the image and you will see the recital on the target and in Night Vision.
    But this is partly why I would say that a Reflex sight is not a gimmick, because you now have an optic you can utilize with night vision other than utilizing a laser, which I would guess as more and more people will have as the years go on. I'm sure that training would make it much quicker on a 3.6-18x, but at the same time wouldn't that also apply to a offset dot? Knowing that you can switch between 4,6, or 8x and 1x with minimum head movement and more peripheral view on a red dot then on your 18x.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank6046 View Post
    There is definitely a mount for that. Repitila probably has a solution, but I have seen many a Piggy back on a 2-10x Trijicon Credo. Not saying it will work perfectly with a HPVO like your nice NF NX8 but most likely someone has thought of a solution.
    Wouldn't it be cartoonishly high?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defaultmp3 View Post
    Molon showed that this is not necessarily a viable technique, given that everyone's eyes are different, and phoria can cause serious shift in perceived POA/POI, with a serious degradation of both accuracy and precision. See: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...d-Eye-Gunsight; several other posters in that thread, including folks like Leuba, Santoro, MM, etc. also noted this issue.

    Might work okay if you're just trying to hit an IPSC at close range, but if you need any kind of precise hit, you'll have to make sure that your eyes are built for it. While this method can work quite well for some folks, for others it seems like it's not particularly viable.
    Down syndrome also causes issues with shooting well.........

    I am not talking about people that have issues. Just normal people. If you are missing your left eye then you also can't do this. ....... Come on man..... I know it is the internet, but it doesn't mean that you have to base everything on the exception instead of the Norm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveL View Post
    Wouldn't it be cartoonishly high?
    No, I have that exact same set up and it is fine. I will take some pic and post them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank6046 View Post
    But this is partly why I would say that a Reflex sight is not a gimmick, because you now have an optic you can utilize with night vision other than utilizing a laser, which I would guess as more and more people will have as the years go on. I'm sure that training would make it much quicker on a 3.6-18x, but at the same time wouldn't that also apply to a offset dot? Knowing that you can switch between 4,6, or 8x and 1x with minimum head movement and more peripheral view on a red dot then on your 18x.

    I know, I agree with that..... at the 12 O'clok position it is great...... for passive NVG shooting. I do not even turn on my RMRs during daylight unless I am zeroing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveL View Post
    Wouldn't it be cartoonishly high?
    Yes, but it works. Not trying to deny the downsides, just saying that this is the trade off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    I know, I agree with that..... at the 12 O'clok position it is great...... for passive NVG shooting. I do not even turn on my RMRs during daylight unless I am zeroing them.
    Totally agree, I just find them also decent for 50-75 yards and in as well, you probably have more experience then I do, but I really like that Donut reticle on my 509T for quick acquisition, verse a busy Christmas tree reticle on 8+x for quick work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    Down syndrome also causes issues with shooting well.........

    I am not talking about people that have issues. Just normal people. If you are missing your left eye then you also can't do this. ....... Come on man..... I know it is the internet, but it doesn't mean that you have to base everything on the exception instead of the Norm.
    The point is that phoria is not an uncommon issue. Guesses on the prevalence of phoria are as high as 50%; even lower ranges are usually over 20%. If a quarter to half of the population doesn't work well for occluded eye/BAC, then I don't think it's proper to call the use of offset/piggyback RDSes as gimmicks just because an alternative method works for you.

    As Leuba said in the linked thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    I have never recommended the use of the ACOG as an OEG, mostly because of this distinct shift we see in about 50% of shooters to varying degrees and distances of effect. I use the OEG technique only as a method to get the shooters into shooting with both eyes open.
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    Question - can you close either eye independently, i.e. wink? I can only close my non-dominant eye. I also virtually always shoot with both eyes open. Maybe I have Downs syndrome.

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    Many times you will find the front lens cover closed on my Aimpoints, when going from low light inside to outside in the bright sun, I never have to adjust brightness of the dot, it always looks the same. Both eyes open of course.

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