"BJJ vs The Streets - My Biggest Takeaways From Bouncing"

[WillBrink]

NSFW: This kid is funny and gives some good advice. I worked as a bouncer in a few places in the summers when i was younger larger/stronger and thought I was up for such things. The mangers liked me because I was able to talk people down from fighting every time, and never hit anyone or got hit. Other bouncers where often there to beat up drunk guys and such. One summer I was offered head of security because I always walked people out the door without drama. However, it was only a matter of time until my luck ran out and someone sucker punched in the back of the head or what ever, and I decided not to push my luck not being a fighter or someone was actually wanting to fight. Anyway, much of what this kid says, who has a lot more experience then I do, jibes with what I saw growing up in Brooklyn 70s/80s:

[chuckman]

LOL, that was great. I wrestled in HS, I boxed in my 20s, and currently do judo and BJJ. I have been in a couple real fights in my life, and I echo what this guy says, the other guy gets a vote.

[BoringGuy45]

I totally hear what he said about the adrenaline dump and the exhaustion. When I’m rolling in BJJ, I’m exhausted by the end, no doubt. But when I had my first use of force incident as a CO, the entire fight lasted about 1 minute, but I was so exhausted from the adrenaline dump that it was agonizing to breathe for about 15 minutes!

[chuckman]

I totally hear what he said about the adrenaline dump and the exhaustion. When I’m rolling in BJJ, I’m exhausted by the end, no doubt. But when I had my first use of force incident as a CO, the entire fight lasted about 1 minute, but I was so exhausted from the adrenaline dump that it was agonizing to breathe for about 15 minutes!

Yep, agree about the adrenaline dump. When I roll with BJJ or do Randori with judo, you know that a) the other guy isn't trying to literally kill you and b) it's time limited and you get up, get water, and make up and be nice. DEFINITLEY not like that with a real fight.

[Averageman]

I used to have a very undersized friend, he was like 5'2" all he wanted to do was drive Tanks and drink Beer.
I'm pretty sure John T. figured out how to do both at the same time at least once, but that's another story.
Most of my Battalion drank in one Bar in Germany, it was one big happy Family. John T (Everybody's Buddy) was sitting on his stool and a much bigger guy who we thought might be an MP, started in on him, punched him in the back actually.
John T wasn't 140 lbs soaking wet, but he spun that stool around and jumped on that much bigger guy like a wild cat. Finally John T, grabbed this Guys ears and bit his nose hard as heck.
The fight then lasted until the big guy passed out and fell. John T got up spitting blood and washing it down with Beer.

You don't know what your tangling with sometimes.

[utahjeepr]

Will, I bounced a lot when I was younger. One rowdy honky tonk aside, nobody really wanted bouncers going toe to toe with the clients. Bad for business. If there is anything I kept from my time in the .mil it was "never let the enemy determine the fight". I tried to apply that to the job.

I ain't a BJJ/Martial arts pro. Some training prior to service. Above average .mil training, and a little since. Wrestlers were my favorite hires when I was in that role. If a fight did happen: ground em, control em, and get them on the other side of the door ASAP. If they still had fight in them, let the boys with badges have em. BJJ is a lot of ground game so yeah it would pay dividends if it came to it. Thing is if you are worth a shit on the floor then 90+% will never get that far.

In that rougher redneck bar, one of my favorite coworkers was a chick. She knew her MMA, but she had a great eye for trouble and she was quick to grab the radio. Best partner ever.

Worst bars to work? F'ing college bars. I'd work a honky tonk or a biker bar before I ever take another campus bar.

[utahjeepr]

One thing the video did not touch on enough from a bouncers perspective. The interested, or previously disinterested, third/fourth/... party. Dudes buddy(ies), the girlfriend he just punched, or even the guy he was just kicking the shit out of may suddenly decide this is a great time to kick you in the balls or in the face.

God help you if you are in a big club alone or if you didn't comms on your way in. First bouncer on the scene has takedown of the primary. If there ain't a swarm of help on the way that guy is gonna take some hurt.

He'll, I've been kicked in the face by some random chick who just decided for the hell of it to pick a side. No clue WTF was going on or why just took a shot. She was very apologetic when she was getting the cuff-n-stuff . Didn't help the broken teeth though.

[SteyrAUG]

Unless you are doing it for cultural / historic reasons, anyone who limits themselves to a "style" limits their ability to fight because you must remain in the confines of style.

Fighting happens in ranges from kicking range, boxing range, trapping range and ground. Each one has it's own inherent advantages and disadvantages.

Kicking range is great because you have longer weapons but if you find yourself in a confined space like a public bathroom it's going to be less effective than boxing or trapping range.

Boxing range is great unless you can't function in kicking or trapping range, or worse if it goes to ground and you don't know how to do that.

Trapping range is great, most people have never seen it before so it has that advantage, but you tend to commit yourself to one opponent at a time and if there are more than one you might have trouble.

Ground is great, but again if there are actually more than one opponents then you are in real trouble. It's also a terrible range if the person you are fighting has a weapon and you find yourself rolling around with a guy who is stabbing you.

Effective fighters learn to function in four ranges and borrow from whatever style happens to be effective in a given range.

I worked club security in Ft. Lauderdale during the 90s, got away with it with no serious issues. First problem is clubs are where some people just go to "F up", they are sometimes completely irresponsible and if they are showing out to impress girls or whatever they are capable of anything. I imagine it's lots worse today.

[SteyrAUG]

I used to have a very undersized friend, he was like 5'2" all he wanted to do was drive Tanks and drink Beer.
I'm pretty sure John T. figured out how to do both at the same time at least once, but that's another story.
Most of my Battalion drank in one Bar in Germany, it was one big happy Family. John T (Everybody's Buddy) was sitting on his stool and a much bigger guy who we thought might be an MP, started in on him, punched him in the back actually.
John T wasn't 140 lbs soaking wet, but he spun that stool around and jumped on that much bigger guy like a wild cat. Finally John T, grabbed this Guys ears and bit his nose hard as heck.
The fight then lasted until the big guy passed out and fell. John T got up spitting blood and washing it down with Beer.

You don't know what your tangling with sometimes.

You haven't seen anything until you see some guy who tips in at around 125 lbs. at 5' 10" start stacking assholes because he's been a seal for 8 years. It's like watching somebody turn gravity OFF. You are seeing it, but it's hard to believe.

One of my teachers, Mike Allen is one of the smallest guys I know. I remember watching him smoke Billy Blanks.