Lots of talk, time to hit back

[hotbiggun42]

Our Republican politicians have no balls. We have got to stop voting for the lesser of 2 evils. Yes we will lose elections but in the long run this is how change will happen.

We also need a voice, we lost ours when Rush Limbaugh passed.

[lowprone]

We are losing elections now !

[BoringGuy45]

Our Republican politicians have no balls. We have got to stop voting for the lesser of 2 evils. Yes we will lose elections but in the long run this is how change will happen.

We also need a voice, we lost ours when Rush Limbaugh passed.

How did it work out in this past election? The only reason the GOP has the House is because of “lesser of 2 evils” candidates. The hardcore conservatives all lost. How’s that helped the country?

We also don’t need a voice; we need unity. Conservatives are so paranoid that everyone is either a traitor, an undercover agent, or a soon to be turncoat that there’s not a single person that they will fight alongside. Maybe if we stop concentrating all our energy on purifying conservativism and purging the GOP, we’d get somewhere.

[Diamondback]

This is where the idea of concentrating on one company at a time seems to hold water. Small pockets of conservative minded folks sort of haphazardly not buying something, sometimes, is going to do nothing but if everyone we could reach stopped buying a certain, one in particular, product for a prolonged period, it seems the effect would be felt.

Or we can continue to do nothing, with no particular plan, continue to watch the culture devolve and whine about the other side cheating its way to election wins to further solidify these positions of insanity. That seems to be working out well for the country.

Bingo. Start reading Rules for Radicals and using it against its own creators.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

rocsteady- My view of this public pressure phenomenom is that it isn't some grass roots type thing that you trying to set up. This isn't a campaign against companies, it part of an over-arching attack on the current order and values. It LOOKS like what you are talking about- it isn't.

What you really need to do is get some young right-wing warriors and creators to help fashion and find the right companies. Then find the right-wing media (FOX/Daily-wire) producers and a right-wing money group that is willing to bank-roll this. This doens't happen on the left with out some paid people with walking around money. Show the money people the deliverables for their investment- maybe they have an ax to grind that you could help them with. Show them that you can deliver a focused attack and impact that the money people can then crow (privately) about. Then you get more money. Add in a lynch pin like Joe Rogan for stuff that he'll endorse.

That's the model I have in my head to make this work. Astroturf that fudger, takes too long to grow organically. It's a business. Look at all the BLM money- and who knows where it goes. Even if it is 'legit' it mostly goes into jobs programs and consultancies for the left. We should be weaponizing the Second Amendment and using red states to funnel money to pro-2A groups in the name of righting decade long govt intrustion in our civil rights.

[Hush]

We are losing elections now !

If you trust the elections, that is..
I think if you believe the elections are still honest, you are pretty damn naive. When one side says hey maybe we should verify who voters are and use identification, and the other side has to resort to slavery and poll tax arguments...they are hiding something. I think the reality is cheating is how it's been done, on both sides, since the beginning. The government has control, and has no interest in fixing it.
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[hotbiggun42]

How did it work out in this past election? The only reason the GOP has the House is because of “lesser of 2 evils” candidates. The hardcore conservatives all lost. How’s that helped the country?

We also don’t need a voice; we need unity. Conservatives are so paranoid that everyone is either a traitor, an undercover agent, or a soon to be turncoat that there’s not a single person that they will fight alongside. Maybe if we stop concentrating all our energy on purifying conservativism and purging the GOP, we’d get somewhere.

Worked out really good for the democrats. Back in the early 80s they consolidated the radical parties, took them a bit to turn it around but it worked. The second half of your answer is redicoulouse.
The GOP is as conservative as the democrats. No such thing as a fiscal conservative and social liberal.

[BoringGuy45]

Worked out really good for the democrats. Back in the early 80s they consolidated the radical parties, took them a bit to turn it around but it worked. The second half of your answer is redicoulouse.
The GOP is as conservative as the democrats. No such thing as a fiscal conservative and social liberal.

The idea that the GOP is far left socialist as the Democrats is flat out false. The GOP sucks, but if they were truly were no more conservative than the Democrats, we’d be a nationwide California. This website wouldn’t exist because guns, down to single shot black powder rifles, would have been banned a long time ago.

The problem is that conservatives are schizophrenic-level paranoid of everyone. Anytime anyone does something in favor of conservatism, they’re immediately dismissed as a double agent and the right says the whole thing is a setup. We have to put aside differences and realize that the enemy of our enemy is our friend. But conservatives won’t ever fight because we just assume that EVERYONE is the enemy. Right now, the left, and the left alone, is the enemy.

[Diamondback]

The idea that the GOP is far left socialist as the Democrats is flat out false. The GOP sucks, but if they were truly were no more conservative than the Democrats, we’d be a nationwide California. This website wouldn’t exist because guns, down to single shot black powder rifles, would have been banned a long time ago.

The problem is that conservatives are schizophrenic-level paranoid of everyone. Anytime anyone does something in favor of conservatism, they’re immediately dismissed as a double agent and the right says the whole thing is a setup. We have to put aside differences and realize that the enemy of our enemy is our friend. But conservatives won’t ever fight because we just assume that EVERYONE is the enemy. Right now, the left, and the left alone, is the enemy.

Better phrasing is less "my friend" than "potentially a problem to deal with another day but for now a useful asset."

[BoringGuy45]

Better phrasing is less "my friend" than "potentially a problem to deal with another day but for now a useful asset."

That’s usually who an enemy of an enemy is if they aren’t already a friend. We sided with Stalin in WWII, so I think can gut it out and collaborate with anybody who has had enough of this nonsense.