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    Iwo Jima from the Japanese Infantryman's Perspective

    Another good history YT channel. As few survived, not many first hand accounts from the Japanese experience. It's amazing we didn't lose even more men:

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    Things went on longer than many realize, and it from ugly to something I can't even imagine:

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    The brutality of the battle is unimaginable. The fighting went on non-stop for weeks with no lulls at night, just constant fighting with one side on top of the island and one side underground. There are several good books but one of the best is “Iwo” by Richard Wheeler, who fought and was wounded there. One account he writes about that demonstrates how bad it was is a Marine who is severely wounded, losing a couple of limbs. As they are carrying him off the battlefield he is telling the stretcher bearers how lucky he is to leave that island alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flenna View Post
    The brutality of the battle is unimaginable. The fighting went on non-stop for weeks with no lulls at night, just constant fighting with one side on top of the island and one side underground. There are several good books but one of the best is “Iwo” by Richard Wheeler, who fought and was wounded there. One account he writes about that demonstrates how bad it was is a Marine who is severely wounded, losing a couple of limbs. As they are carrying him off the battlefield he is telling the stretcher bearers how lucky he is to leave that island alive.
    5K+ KIA in a month on a two square mile island......those casualties would never be tolerated today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    5K+ KIA in a month on a two square mile island......those casualties would never be tolerated today.
    Approx 2X more than our entire time in Afg. Considering their defenses and determination, always amazed we didn't lose even more. Just horrific.
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    Why didn't we gas them?

    I think the HBO series "The Pacific" didn't do as well as band of brothers because of the non-stop inhumanity of the Pacific theater. Granted, the Eastern front was bad for the Russians, but the Pacific was a whole other level. And that doesn't even get to what the Japanese did in Mainland China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    Why didn't we gas them?
    They used all kinds of things. Vid touches on that. Most effective and horrific were the flame throwing tanks. If it's possible to narrow down the worst possible way to go in war, that's gotta be it.

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    I think the HBO series "The Pacific" didn't do as well as band of brothers because of the non-stop inhumanity of the Pacific theater.
    That's because the Japanese made the Germans look like boy scouts in many respects. Per vid, Japanese soldiers where amazed how kind the US soldiers where to them when captured.

    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    Granted, the Eastern front was bad for the Russians, but the Pacific was a whole other level. And that doesn't even get to what the Japanese did in Mainland China.
    The Eastern Front was bad for the Russians, even worse for the Germans when the tide turned. The Russians paid them back with interest and then some. There was no quarter given, they didn't take prisoners for the most part.
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    So it's just a movie but, "Letters from Iwo Jima" does get into this stuff just a little bit. It's the companion film to "Flags of Our Fathers" told from the Japanese perspective. It's probably more than a little idealistic in portraying their humanity and misunderstood culture but it does give some insight into Japanese thinking at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    Why didn't we gas them?
    Iwo Jima was one large, interconnected underground bunker complex. You take out one pill box and 15 minute later new guys are running it again.
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    Smithsonian channel has a show called "The Pacific War in Color" with a ton of old color footage I'd never seen, and I thought I'd seen most of it over the years. You guys might also like The Unauthorized History of the Pacific War podcast on YouTube.

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