Iraq Veteran 8888 poll

[yoni]

Youtubber Iraq Veteran 8888 posted a poll on twitter on if the American military would fire on the American people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlW6BQfLZO4

The results are very lopsided.

[Inkslinger]

I’m not shocked. Do you remember this fine American soldier?

https://youtu.be/PSYNaqNUS10

[Wake27]

There’s some really stupid shit in this debate and the continual trash on ARFCOM often reminds me of it.

Stupid people are stupid people no matter what and the unarguable assumptions made about the military by those with zero connections to it are proof.


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[prepare]

The way things are going we'll find out...

[LoboTBL]

There is a percentage of the military that would both give those orders and follow them. It may not be the majority but it's not an insignificant percentage either.

[SteyrAUG]

Some will, some won't. Following orders or becoming subversive to command will be dictated by too many variables to list.

As such this is always a retarded discussion unless we are discussing historical events that have already come to pass or very specific "pending" events that are imminent.

People who think they know the future, for certain, generally prove their lack of understanding of most things.

[jsbhike]

Some will, some won't. Following orders or becoming subversive to command will be dictated by too many variables to list.

As such this is always a retarded discussion unless we are discussing historical events that have already come to pass or very specific "pending" events that are imminent.

People who think they know the future, for certain, generally prove their lack of understanding of most things.

While nothing is 100% guaranteed in life, based on the bonus Army and various state units being used against US citizens(labor negotiations come to mind) a different outcome is over in the odds category of communists claiming the outcome won't be like the last time(s).

[HKGuns]

Of couse they will. They're actually fed more fricking propoganda than the rest of us. Look no further than the political boot licking military "Leadership." I'd bet less than 1 percent actually understand the constitution. How many of us did at that age? I sure wasn't as well versed as I am at this point in life.

[SteyrAUG]

While nothing is 100% guaranteed in life, based on the bonus Army and various state units being used against US citizens(labor negotiations come to mind) a different outcome is over in the odds category of communists claiming the outcome won't be like the last time(s).

Could have easily been time / place plus the combined egos of Patton and MacArthur. We should remember around the same time the US was practicing eugenics and a person could find themselves forcibly sterilized by the government if they were found "indigent." We were practicing full speed ahead socialism at the time.

It is almost a certainty that the "political creatures" within our military will lock step along with just about anything but the rank and file will either hold to whatever personal beliefs motivate them or need a serious reason not to. I personally believe in cases where it looks like a government gone rogue, that any large scale use of the military against it's own citizens will cause dramatic fractures throughout every branch and I think even the most arrogant government leaders understand that.

Depending upon circumstances, they are "as likely" to find themselves at war with their own military, especially if elements of the special operations community decide to declare "bullshit." And of course I can remember people talking about this scenario since the 1970s, Waco is as close as we've ever come and even that came at great expense to many involved. It was enough to motivate some fringe elements to acts of domestic terrorism that made Clinton / Reno wish they had left those nutjobs in Texas alone.

[SteyrAUG]

Of couse they will. They're actually fed more fricking propoganda than the rest of us. Look no further than the political boot licking military "Leadership." I'd bet less than 1 percent actually understand the constitution. How many of us did at that age? I sure wasn't as well versed as I am at this point in life.

Having worked directly with a LOT of the military for the last 20 years I would say "most of then know, most of them understand." Most people don't like their boss.