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    How close are a 10/22 and a PPSH in design.

    Just watched a video and from the outside, everything looks similar.
    I was curious about Bill Ruger's designs and found them similar to other older designs from others.

    So, does anyone here know?

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    I'd always heard/read the M-1 Carbine was inspiration for the Ruger .44 Magnum Carbine which in turn was for the 10/22.

    The Ruger 10/22: History & Design
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    And Blackhawks and Redhawks are clearly old Colt designs modified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titsonritz View Post
    I'd always heard/read the M-1 Carbine was inspiration for the Ruger .44 Magnum Carbine which in turn was for the 10/22.

    The Ruger 10/22: History & Design
    Good read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    Just watched a video and from the outside, everything looks similar.
    I was curious about Bill Ruger's designs and found them similar to other older designs from others.

    So, does anyone here know?
    LOL. Mark IIs were Japanese Nambu's T-14s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    LOL. Mark IIs were Japanese Nambu's T-14s.
    He made a fairly close baby nambu .22lr copy, but wouldn't sell it due to being easy to conceal.

    https://www.rugertalk.com/threads/th...to-ruger.7144/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    LOL. Mark IIs were Japanese Nambu's T-14s.
    The Mark II came along later. Ruger's first pistols were named "the Ruger Pistol". The Mark I Target was developed and the original renamed the Standard Model. Roger started selling pistols in 1949 and then brought out the Mark I in 1951. He was a busy guy.

    Absolutely right they were inspired by the Nambu, styled to resemble the Luger.

    The original ad says they can be disassembled in 5 seconds, telling that it doesn't mention the trip to a gunsmith for reassembly

    https://www.americanrifleman.org/con...r-s-22-pistol/

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    Last edited by AndyLate; 04-18-23 at 07:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    The Mark II came along later. Ruger's first pistols were named "the Ruger Pistol". The Mark I Target was developed and the original renamed the Standard Model. Roger started selling pistols in 1949 and then brought out the Mark I in 1951. He was a busy guy.

    Absolutely right they were inspired by the Nambu, styled to resemble the Luger.

    The original ad says they can be disassembled in 5 seconds, telling that it doesn't mention the trip to a gunsmith for reassembly

    https://www.americanrifleman.org/con...r-s-22-pistol/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    He made a fairly close baby nambu .22lr copy, but wouldn't sell it due to being easy to conceal.

    https://www.rugertalk.com/threads/th...to-ruger.7144/
    Bill Ruger was an ahole, not surprised. And he wasn't just a "I don't want to get into trouble as a firearms manufacturer" guy, he was "Hey ATF I have some really great ideas about how to restrict things to the public" kind of guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    The Mark II came along later. Ruger's first pistols were named "the Ruger Pistol". The Mark I Target was developed and the original renamed the Standard Model. Roger started selling pistols in 1949 and then brought out the Mark I in 1951. He was a busy guy.

    Absolutely right they were inspired by the Nambu, styled to resemble the Luger.

    The original ad says they can be disassembled in 5 seconds, telling that it doesn't mention the trip to a gunsmith for reassembly

    https://www.americanrifleman.org/con...r-s-22-pistol/

    Andy
    Thanks for the clarification. I just knew he sorta reverse engineered a T-14. I had a Nambu before I ever owned a Mark II so it was really obvious to me.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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