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Thread: So For An RDS Handgun, Wouldn't You Actually Want It Forward Of The Ejection Port?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defaultmp3 View Post
    But then what would even be the point of it? The DPM's tiny window only made smaller by pushing it further forward, to... do what?
    I think I found a disconnect. When I envision a RDS handgun, I'm thinking of something like a Glock with a C-More RDS size setup. I just looked at the Delta Point Micro and honestly that's more of a rear sight substitute than what I think of when it comes to RDS. I couldn't adjust to that DPM in years, but if we are talking about the DPM or similar, you are correct about optimum location.

    The RDS handgun I want someday has something like a Eotech XPS2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    So for years with 1911s we were taught to "front sight" everything. How would a center location RDS be any more difficult to pick up than a front blade sight?

    Not arguing with anyone, just thinking out loud as a though experiment. Also full disclosure, I have only shot a handful of RDS sight handguns a few times. Obviously changes presentation a bit and it was slightly more problematic than I imagined it would be.
    Basically Defaultmp3 already laid it out, as I'm thinking anyway. The front sight is always visible, but the reticle/dot is only visible through the window of the optic, and only when it's properly aligned. Like you, I am also just thinking out loud, but this is my best educated guess as of right now. I think moving the dot that far forward would make it worse, not better.
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    It would make it way worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViniVidivici View Post
    It would make it way worse.
    For something like a Delta Micro Point I agree. But what about something more like an Eotech?
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    With enough practice seeing the front sight won't be an issue.

    Remember seeing your front sight post through your rifle red dot or scope?

    It's like that. Distracting at first but you get used to it eventually. It's not really desirable though. Sure, you want your irons there as backup but don't really want to see them all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    For something like a Delta Micro Point I agree. But what about something more like an Eotech?
    Negative, read DefaultMP3's posts, saved me alot of typing. Just. No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I think I found a disconnect. When I envision a RDS handgun, I'm thinking of something like a Glock with a C-More RDS size setup. I just looked at the Delta Point Micro and honestly that's more of a rear sight substitute than what I think of when it comes to RDS. I couldn't adjust to that DPM in years, but if we are talking about the DPM or similar, you are correct about optimum location.

    The RDS handgun I want someday has something like a Eotech XPS2.
    Youre talking about an open gun (see KC Eusabio's glock)
    It would have to be an open holster, and the size and weight is blurring the lines between a pistol and pdw... and what does it get you?

    The benefits between CO and open class are already small enough the juice aint worth the squeeze for carrying around. The 6second mount is about as bulky as is practical.
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    Yeah ^
    Everything’s a trade off; “shootability/concealable/etc.”.
    Get, and learn to use a conventional RD; RMR/SRO/507. Or not.
    Really that simple.
    A true "Gun Guy" (or gal) should have familiarity and a modicum of proficiency with most all firearms platforms.

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    Is the small window of the Leupold Deltapoint Micro that bad?
    If one has a proper presentation, wouldn’t the dot just appear despite the small window?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defaultmp3 View Post
    But then what would even be the point of it? The DPM's tiny window only made smaller by pushing it further forward, to... do what?
    It could depend. As is, it would be a no go out front. Change some dimensions(shorten the tube) and maybe.

    Obviously sticking a typical dot out front would screw the ability to carry in a normal holster.

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