Trump Imploding? Attacks on Desantis starting

[Alpha-17]

I continue to be curious about the polls for the last couple of months regarding either Trump or DeSantis; they show Trump with a consistent 40+ point lead. Without digging it up, I posted a thread on here quite some time ago about "Trump or DeSantis?". Last I saw it DeSantis was ahead by almost 3:1. BARFCOM has one going now and it is 2:1 DeSantis > Trump. I realize these may be two "echo chambers" but where does the MSM get these poll numbers from? If I didn't know better I'd swear the Left and their minions, despite raging on Trump since before he ever even took office years ago, would love Lord Cheeto to get the nomination in 2024. Hmmm....... Wonder why that would be???

CNN and the mainstream media made Trump the nominee in 2016 because they thought he was the one person Hillary could beat. They were wrong, but they're pretty sure, after 2020, that they can plausibly beat him. Reality doesn't matter, as long as the numbers are "close enough" they can fudge it. DeSantis doesn't have the same baggage, nor the same grating personality that doomed Trump. Between the two, they want their strawman running again, rather than someone fresh, new, and capable of not just "triggering the libs" but actually governing.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

And here it comes....Factcheck.org pounding on DeSantis.

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/05/fa...-announcement/

Making his pitch for the Republican nomination, DeSantis leaned heavily into his record as governor of the Sunshine State, and criticism of President Joe Biden. But we found that in some instances, DeSantis presented a distorted or incomplete picture.

DeSantis said that Florida “eliminated critical race theory,” even though there is little or no evidence that it was being taught in public schools.

DeSantis blamed “woke ideology” for recent military recruitment struggles, but the Army secretary said a 2022 survey found that “wokeness” was “relatively low on the list of barriers to service.”

The governor described “global warming” as “not central to the mission” of the military, but Pentagon leaders have warned for years that climate change poses a national security threat.

DeSantis repeatedly boasted that “Florida’s crime rate is at a 50-year low.” The rate has been declining for decades, and crime experts have cautioned that the 2021 data cannot be compared to prior years while the state transitions to a new method of crime reporting.

DeSantis suggested that California wants “abortion all the way up till birth” and already allows it “post-birth.” But infanticide is illegal in the state, and a voter-approved ballot measure that guarantees access to abortion doesn’t mention abortions after fetal viability.

He labeled claims of Florida book bans a “hoax” because “there’s not been a single book banned” in the state. But a nonprofit counted hundreds of books that were removed from Florida schools and libraries to comply with bills DeSantis signed into law.

DeSantis misleadingly portrayed the risks of climate change by narrowly focusing only on the frequency of hurricanes, ignoring that it will make hurricanes wetter and more intense.

He boasted that Florida “recently ranked number one in education” — a ranking that DeSantis inherited and is based on both elementary and higher education. The state’s K-12 schools ranked 14th.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I continue to be curious about the polls for the last couple of months regarding either Trump or DeSantis; they show Trump with a consistent 40+ point lead. Without digging it up, I posted a thread on here quite some time ago about "Trump or DeSantis?". Last I saw it DeSantis was ahead by almost 3:1. BARFCOM has one going now and it is 2:1 DeSantis > Trump. I realize these may be two "echo chambers" but where does the MSM get these poll numbers from? If I didn't know better I'd swear the Left and their minions, despite raging on Trump since before he ever even took office years ago, would love Lord Cheeto to get the nomination in 2024. Hmmm....... Wonder why that would be???

Folks generally scoff at polls they don't like and embrace favorable polling. For what it's worth.. polling the day after DeSantis announced.

[WillBrink]

I continue to be curious about the polls for the last couple of months regarding either Trump or DeSantis; they show Trump with a consistent 40+ point lead. Without digging it up, I posted a thread on here quite some time ago about "Trump or DeSantis?". Last I saw it DeSantis was ahead by almost 3:1. BARFCOM has one going now and it is 2:1 DeSantis > Trump. I realize these may be two "echo chambers" but where does the MSM get these poll numbers from? If I didn't know better I'd swear the Left and their minions, despite raging on Trump since before he ever even took office years ago, would love Lord Cheeto to get the nomination in 2024. Hmmm....... Wonder why that would be???

The know their chances of beating him are much higher. They know Dasantis will pull some Dems, Independents, etc.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

And here it comes....Factcheck.org pounding on DeSantis.

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/05/fa...-announcement/

Making his pitch for the Republican nomination, DeSantis leaned heavily into his record as governor of the Sunshine State, and criticism of President Joe Biden. But we found that in some instances, DeSantis presented a distorted or incomplete picture.

DeSantis said that Florida “eliminated critical race theory,” even though there is little or no evidence that it was being taught in public schools.

DeSantis blamed “woke ideology” for recent military recruitment struggles, but the Army secretary said a 2022 survey found that “wokeness” was “relatively low on the list of barriers to service.”

The governor described “global warming” as “not central to the mission” of the military, but Pentagon leaders have warned for years that climate change poses a national security threat.

DeSantis repeatedly boasted that “Florida’s crime rate is at a 50-year low.” The rate has been declining for decades, and crime experts have cautioned that the 2021 data cannot be compared to prior years while the state transitions to a new method of crime reporting.

DeSantis suggested that California wants “abortion all the way up till birth” and already allows it “post-birth.” But infanticide is illegal in the state, and a voter-approved ballot measure that guarantees access to abortion doesn’t mention abortions after fetal viability.

He labeled claims of Florida book bans a “hoax” because “there’s not been a single book banned” in the state. But a nonprofit counted hundreds of books that were removed from Florida schools and libraries to comply with bills DeSantis signed into law.

DeSantis misleadingly portrayed the risks of climate change by narrowly focusing only on the frequency of hurricanes, ignoring that it will make hurricanes wetter and more intense.

He boasted that Florida “recently ranked number one in education” — a ranking that DeSantis inherited and is based on both elementary and higher education. The state’s K-12 schools ranked 14th.

Most of those are just degrees or interpretations.

CO and NY let you kill a baby until its first breath.

[Disciple]

CNN and the mainstream media made Trump the nominee in 2016 because they thought he was the one person Hillary could beat. They were wrong, but they're pretty sure, after 2020, that they can plausibly beat him. Reality doesn't matter, as long as the numbers are "close enough" they can fudge it. DeSantis doesn't have the same baggage, nor the same grating personality that doomed Trump. Between the two, they want their strawman running again, rather than someone fresh, new, and capable of not just "triggering the libs" but actually governing.

Exactly as I see it too.

[SteyrAUG]

And here it comes....Factcheck.org pounding on DeSantis.

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/05/fa...-announcement/

Making his pitch for the Republican nomination, DeSantis leaned heavily into his record as governor of the Sunshine State, and criticism of President Joe Biden. But we found that in some instances, DeSantis presented a distorted or incomplete picture.

DeSantis said that Florida “eliminated critical race theory,” even though there is little or no evidence that it was being taught in public schools.

DeSantis blamed “woke ideology” for recent military recruitment struggles, but the Army secretary said a 2022 survey found that “wokeness” was “relatively low on the list of barriers to service.”

The governor described “global warming” as “not central to the mission” of the military, but Pentagon leaders have warned for years that climate change poses a national security threat.

DeSantis repeatedly boasted that “Florida’s crime rate is at a 50-year low.” The rate has been declining for decades, and crime experts have cautioned that the 2021 data cannot be compared to prior years while the state transitions to a new method of crime reporting.

DeSantis suggested that California wants “abortion all the way up till birth” and already allows it “post-birth.” But infanticide is illegal in the state, and a voter-approved ballot measure that guarantees access to abortion doesn’t mention abortions after fetal viability.

He labeled claims of Florida book bans a “hoax” because “there’s not been a single book banned” in the state. But a nonprofit counted hundreds of books that were removed from Florida schools and libraries to comply with bills DeSantis signed into law.

DeSantis misleadingly portrayed the risks of climate change by narrowly focusing only on the frequency of hurricanes, ignoring that it will make hurricanes wetter and more intense.

He boasted that Florida “recently ranked number one in education” — a ranking that DeSantis inherited and is based on both elementary and higher education. The state’s K-12 schools ranked 14th.

Less opinion, more direct quotes.

https://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_DeSantis.htm

[SteyrAUG]

Trump attacks his opponents...also, the sky is blue.

Trump is gonna Trump...stripes ain't gonna change for 2024.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/25/polit...egy/index.html

DeSantis is going after Trump like never before

DeSantis gonna DeSantis?

[WillBrink]

Everyone does understand that all involved are running against the other in hopes of winning the GOP nomination correct?

Trump is gonna say shit to undermine DeSantis, DeSantis is gonna say shit to undermine Trump. As other nominee's present themselves they will do the same.

One is going to do it by lying and making up names like we are in high school, the other is so far, sticking to facts, outcomes, policy choices, etc:

[SteyrAUG]

One is going to do it by lying and making up names like we are in high school, the other is so far, sticking to facts, outcomes, policy choices, etc:

Give it time.