About the HK USP...

[SteyrAUG]

I don't dispute any of that, but I still wish they would update the USP rail. That's really the only thing that keeps me away from it.

Never gonna happen, just buy a P30 V3.

[SteyrAUG]

I bought one of the first USPs when they came out. The P30L is a much better 9mm and the HK45CT is a much better 45. Both have pic rails and both have adjustable grip sizes.

Bought mine in 94 before the ban. They make rail adapters but that limits holster options. I have never needed adjustable grips on any handgun I own and I shoot everything from 1911s to P7s.

Most of todays shooters won't have any reason to buy a USP, it was a groundbreaking design 30 years ago but the P30 does pretty much everything a USP will do and has a more popular rail design and is cheaper to buy. P30 also seems to be pretty durable.

[Slater]

If designs like the 1911, Beretta 92, and CZ 75 are still chugging along, the USP is (relatively speaking) still in junior high.

[HKGuns]

I don’t consider any of my USP’s to be outdated.

To each their own. USP is more modular than any other pistol to this day. How many other pistols have 7 variants?

[SteveL]

Never gonna happen, just buy a P30 V3.

I know it won't, but a guy can still dream.

Does anyone make a good holster for a USP with a rail adapter and light?

[SteyrAUG]

I know it won't, but a guy can still dream.

Does anyone make a good holster for a USP with a rail adapter and light?

Gonna end up with one of those omnivore holsters that accept any large frame auto with light.

[SteveL]

Gonna end up with one of those omnivore holsters that accept any large frame auto with light.

Those are interesting holsters. I wish they were QLS compatible, although there are adapters available.

[Exiledviking]

I read on another forum that KTMech makes decent holsters for the USP pistols with a light. Unfortunately, no personal experience.

[mark5pt56]

Ignorance is calling it a relic. While I'm not a 1911 guy, you always hear folks saying "a 1911 is not relevant" To some, if it doesn't have a rail, red dot and a whiz bang light trigger that doesn't hurt their sensitive finger, it's junk. Oh-I forgot, not modular so they can play dress up.

Anyhow, have a great Memorial Day!

[Exiledviking]

A local store had a couple 9mm USP's in their case. Didn't take the time to examine them, but (IIRC) one was a "V1" and the other was a "V7". Think the difference was something to do with single action vs double action.

The V1 is your normal DA/SA with a thumb safety/decocker lever. Nice thing about that one is that you can run it cocked and locked like a 1911.

The V7 is my preference for a serious use pistol. It's HK's LEM, Law Enforcement Module. It keeps the hammer cocked internally but the trigger resets all the way forward and the visible part of the 2-part hammer resets forward too. So, looking at it from the outside, it appears to be a somewhat lighter DAO, but it's not since there's a sear that needs to be tripped to release the hammer. Depending upon how you run the trigger, it can be used as a hybrid DAO if you let the trigger all the way forward each time. Or, if you only let the trigger forward to the reset point, it feels similar (to ME) to a Glock trigger if you run the Glock trigger the same way; only to the reset. I run 1911 triggers the same way. And that's how I run my LEM HKs.

If you get a chance to dry fire a LEM HK pistol, you'll see why some people really like the LEM trigger. Keep in mind that you have to cycle the slide, just like it would if you were shooting it (just like a Glock), between trigger pulls. Every one of my friends that own HK hammer fired pistols have the LEM trigger in them. They were converts after trying my LEM HKs.
There are lighter springs that can lower the overall trigger pull on the LEM trigger if you prefer. I have a USP45 Expert that I use for bowling pin matches and it has the light (springs) LEM trigger in it along with the nickel-plated sear spring.

The USP is great pistol. Yes, it's a little dated and the OG rail is outdated, but it's a great and extremely tough pistol. Federal Ammunition has a USP45 that they use for testing and it has something like 300,000 rounds thru it with just regular maintenance. I read somewhere a while back that there's a USP9 with close to 250,000 rounds thru it as well with just regular maintenance.