About the HK USP...

[Slater]

Some videos and articles on the USP have used the terms "relic" and "dated" in reference to this gun. Is that due to it's ergonomics and/or bulk?

[Hush]

Some videos and articles on the USP have used the terms "relic" and "dated" in reference to this gun. Is that due to it's ergonomics and/or bulk?

I would guess that, as well as the lack of modularity.

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[SteveL]

I can't help but think its outdated proprietary rail is a factor. If they would ever update the rail to the current standard I would buy one in a heartbeat.

[SteyrAUG]

I can't help but think its outdated proprietary rail is a factor. If they would ever update the rail to the current standard I would buy one in a heartbeat.

So funny thing is HK invented that damn rail. The HK one is the standard, everyone else adopted a proprietary rail.

Now I personally prefer the newer rails found on P30s and HK45s, but rail mounted handguns began with the USP. SureFire just needs to make a X300 that fits it.

[Slater]

A local store had a couple 9mm USP's in their case. Didn't take the time to examine them, but (IIRC) one was a "V1" and the other was a "V7". Think the difference was something to do with single action vs double action.

[The Dumb Gun Collector]

It's an overbuilt combat autoloader. It was designed with .40 and 9mm in mind and has a lot of very interesting innovations. As note above, HK basically invented the accessory rail so you can't blame them for not copying other people's designs that weren't out yet. The recoil reduction system is also super clever. It's the kind of gun you carry into a mad-max scenario. There are better carry options, but the gun is as close to unbreakable as they come, shoots straight, bet your ass reliable and will just generally never give you any trouble.

[Budget]

It's a thick gun. I got rid of mine a couple years ago because I just didn't shoot it. It has a cool factor but it is a giant 9mm that only holds 15 (unless you jet funnel it).

We are seeing more and more striker fired guns and it seems hammer guns in general are tapering off

[SteveL]

So funny thing is HK invented that damn rail. The HK one is the standard, everyone else adopted a proprietary rail.

Now I personally prefer the newer rails found on P30s and HK45s, but rail mounted handguns began with the USP. SureFire just needs to make a X300 that fits it.

I don't dispute any of that, but I still wish they would update the USP rail. That's really the only thing that keeps me away from it.

[Ron3]

DA trigger is terrible, paddle mag release to easy to accidentally release (in the P30SK, for me, anyway) and no optic mount.

[TheAlsatian]

I bought one of the first USPs when they came out. The P30L is a much better 9mm and the HK45CT is a much better 45. Both have pic rails and both have adjustable grip sizes.