About the HK USP...

[TheGhostRider]

Own P2000s and P30s in V3 in 9mm. I’ll put them up against anything on the market.
I’ve learned to shoot them. V3 is a bit of a bugger initially. Once you figure out the trigger… it’s easy to shoot.
When I first started shooting the V3s I thought “oh boy, what did I do”. Now they’re second nature and dead nuts reliable.

[SteyrAUG]

The V1 is your normal DA/SA with a thumb safety/decocker lever. Nice thing about that one is that you can run it cocked and locked like a 1911.

The V7 is my preference for a serious use pistol. It's HK's LEM, Law Enforcement Module. It keeps the hammer cocked internally but the trigger resets all the way forward and the visible part of the 2-part hammer resets forward too. So, looking at it from the outside, it appears to be a somewhat lighter DAO, but it's not since there's a sear that needs to be tripped to release the hammer. Depending upon how you run the trigger, it can be used as a hybrid DAO if you let the trigger all the way forward each time. Or, if you only let the trigger forward to the reset point, it feels similar (to ME) to a Glock trigger if you run the Glock trigger the same way; only to the reset. I run 1911 triggers the same way. And that's how I run my LEM HKs.

If you get a chance to dry fire a LEM HK pistol, you'll see why some people really like the LEM trigger.

I'll be odd man out, but I tried a USPC with a LEM and converted it back to a V1 configuration. I get why some are attracted to it but I just hated it.

Grew up on all sorts of handguns. I can shoot DA revolvers, P-38s, 1911s, Lugers and Glocks...but when you start trying to make a P-38 feel like a Luger, it throws me off bad. The only combo of design features I ever truly loved was the USP because they left the trigger "as is" but combined the controls of a P-38 with that of a 1911.

[RioGrandeGreen]

KTmech makes good holsters. I have one for P2000 OWB with light.

[GNXII]

The USP, in any caliber , is one of those classic well engineered handguns that should be in everyone’s collection. Just like a quality revolver, 1911 etc. It’s a beast of a gun in terms of strength, accuracy, reliability and durability. I recently shot some very hot .357Sig that hurt in other platforms but was great in a USP. Can it use a factory update in some aspects, yes but for its time frame it was right on the money.

[uLs1a]

Outside of the rail, its a fantastic gun with great history. Its was one if my first guns that I regret selling.

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[1986s4]

I just got a lightly used USP 9, safety/decock version. Liking it so far, decent trigger in dry fire. We'll see once I get it to the range. My use is 2 gun in dirty conditions so it's got to be reliable and not fussy about rough treatment.

[cd228]

The USP is an older design, but It's no more outdated then the Sig Classics, CZ-75s, Berretta 92s, etc. It was overbuilt for mil and Le use. The only complaint I have is the trigger and grip ergos, but I'd still buy one. When designed the proprietary rail wasn't an issue as there where very few WMLs or pistols that would take WMLs at the time. As mentioned the P30 and HK 45 take lessons learned from the USP and refined them.

[MarshallDodge]

The USP is an older design, but It's no more outdated then the Sig Classics, CZ-75s, Berretta 92s, etc. It was overbuilt for mil and Le use. The only complaint I have is the trigger and grip ergos, but I'd still buy one. When designed the proprietary rail wasn't an issue as there where very few WMLs or pistols that would take WMLs at the time. As mentioned the P30 and HK 45 take lessons learned from the USP and refined them.

I always wanted to like the USP but couldn't for the reasons you stated. The P30 is a lot more refined, for sure.

[SteyrAUG]

The USP is an older design, but It's no more outdated then the Sig Classics, CZ-75s, Berretta 92s, etc. It was overbuilt for mil and Le use. The only complaint I have is the trigger and grip ergos, but I'd still buy one. When designed the proprietary rail wasn't an issue as there where very few WMLs or pistols that would take WMLs at the time. As mentioned the P30 and HK 45 take lessons learned from the USP and refined them.

I think the Mark 23 was the only other one.

[Slater]

For those who have owned both, how has the P30 improved on the USP? I'm guessing that ergonomics was one improvement.