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    I agree with others that any enforcement would most likely be incidental. That said, if for whatever reason the Feds wanted to conduct an intimidation exercise they could scan their own database of defunct FFL logbooks during the past few years for caliber 5.56, type pistol, and of course the buyer's name. Knock on a few doors... Net forums go insane... mission accomplished. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerplode View Post
    Active Fed enforcement? Nothing...

    They're gonna let local LEOs scoop people up from the range or at traffic stops.
    When did local LEO start enforcing Federal laws? Please let me know, maybe I've been doing things wrong during my careers....
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    On a traffic stop on a wet Washington night I walked up to a car, the windows were all fogged over.

    It was a Ford Pinto.

    A yelled command broke the night, freeze mother ****er. I am drawing and backing away from the Pinto. The other officer backs away also and we call in more guns.

    It seems I was waking into a big problem involving a SBS, I don't remember the length but it was less than 10 inched barrel.

    So we arrested everyone.

    I reached out to ATF to inform them of said SBS, they said never mind we don't want it.

    I do not recall ATF ever filing on any local cases we had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    When did local LEO start enforcing Federal laws? Please let me know, maybe I've been doing things wrong during my careers....
    Missouri Sheriffs’ Association Working to Kill 2nd Amendment Preservation Act | Tenth Amendment Center
    https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/202...servation-act/

    "But the Missouri Sheriffs’ Association (MSA) has aggressively lobbied state senators to oppose HB85, claiming that banning them from enforcing current federal gun control – and anything new from the Biden administration – will stop them from “catching criminals.” This is a typical law enforcement scare-tactic. In reality, these law enforcement lobby groups are really only concerned with preserving their “federal partnerships” and all of the federal grant money, asset forfeiture money, and power that go along with them."

    https://fox8.com/news/mother-files-h...lorain-police/

    "The story began to unfold on Feb. 15, after a 16-year-old boy, his cousin and a friend crossed West 27th Street in Lorain and walked up to the boy’s house. Video from the family’s surveillance camera shows an unmarked police car pull up, and a Lorain police officer and a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agent jump out and try to speak with the boys. By then, the teens are walking into the home."

    Louisville drug task force halted amid scandal | whas11.com
    https://www.whas11.com/article/news/.../417-416513278

    "LMPD pulled the task force — which included federal agents with Homeland Security Investigations — out of the shipping giant's Worldport air hub in September and reassigned LMPD detectives to other narcotics operations, a Courier-Journal investigation has found."
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    I do not recall ATF ever filing on any local cases we had.
    They SEEM to be more interested in transaction activity. Like if you're a goober at a gunshow, their licking their chops. If you're an actual criminal... meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKDoug View Post
    Or Fudds rat you out after seeing you at the range. That's how my cousin got hung up with a non-compliant semi-auto that he though was good to go.
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    When did local LEO start enforcing Federal laws? Please let me know, maybe I've been doing things wrong during my careers....
    So lemme ask you a question, then...Does your state's criminal code allow for possession of an unregistered NFA firearm? 'Cause in NM, that's a felony per state law. It was in CO as well. In fact, I'd wager it's a felony in pretty much every state.

    So no, the Local Bois don't need to enforce federal law. They can scoop people up on state charges then just call the local Fed Boi field office. Even if the Fed Bois elect to not do anything, Joe Gunowner still loses. He's now subject to the whims of the criminal "justice" system and he'll likely never see that rifle...oops, I mean braced pistol *wink* *wink*...ever again.

    But what about injunctions/regulatory rule making authority/it's not really an sbr/muh constitution...Yeah, the courts will decide all that in due time. Joe Gunowner can sit in county in the meanwhile.

    And yeah...I'm sure neither you nor any of the other cops you know would do any of this. There are still plenty of Local Bois out there who would cheerfully ruin someone's life over this petty bullshit. Not to mention all the "we're our own worst enemy" FUDDs policing the ranges of the world.

    This shit is going to enforce itself...No active Fed Boi effort required.
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    I've had NFA violations pop up 3 times in my career that I can remember. 2 were murders involving a short barrel shotgun and 1 was a drug dealer found with a stolen Q Honey Badger SBR. Went to court on both murder cases and the NFA was never brought up. Drug dealer got prosecuted for posession of a stolen gun and the dealing charges
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    They SEEM to be more interested in transaction activity. Like if you're a goober at a gunshow, their licking their chops. If you're an actual criminal... meh.
    Yes they prefer anything that is an operation that they can plan and take credit for.
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