INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY U.S. HAS RETRIEVED CRAFT OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN

[tn1911]

Dr Greer is either the all time best grifter who focuses on UFO's, or he knows more about the topic than anyone alive...]

I have no idea what would qualify Greer to be inside the know of this. Mellon, Elizondo and Grusch all have serious credentials in fields directly tied to this.

Greer on the other hand doesn’t.

Also this guy Greer has made some rather extravagant claims himself, from personally briefing presidents, CIA directors and heads of intelligence agencies to having claimed he met with and briefed Grusch. A claim Grusch denies.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/commen...nding_to_lies/

https://twitter.com/DrStevenGreer/st...52566190829568

Dr. Greer met with this whistleblower in March 2022 in Culpepper, VA and has been providing him with information about facilities and operations.

I think Greer is just a grifter.

[tn1911]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/10/o...smid=url-share

This NYT op-ed piece by Ross Douthat is overall skeptical of whistleblower Grusch’s claims. However it does end on this note: “Actual aliens would be more interesting than Deep State cranks or psy-ops. But all these scenarios make for pretty strange stories about how our government operates.

So you should be following the U.F.O. beat even if you don’t think aliens are out there — because the truth might be weird enough”

[ABNAK]

He described what he saw, but he doesn't know what it was. Again, I believe he saw something, but again nobody knows what it is.

And honestly, we won't know FOR SURE, until something happens like we actually come into possession of an alien craft or similar. I personally don't believe that has already happened. I also have several logical disconnects with the idea that alien intelligence could travel all the way here from there and not have the capacity to observe us without being observed. But that is just my opinion.

I also think if/when first contact happens, it will be unlike anything we were capable of imagining and all of our ideas about having seen alien spacecraft before will become quaint notions in light of the new reality of things.

I tend to think this is an accurate statement if/when.....

Can you imagine it ever happening, and since "they" would be so advanced it might be known to them, we ask the Big Question: What happens when you die? Then they look at us and shrug...."Jeez, we thought you humans would know!"

[tn1911]

EXCLUSIVE: Crashed UFO recovered by the US military 'distorted space and time,' leaving one investigator 'nauseous and disoriented' when he went in and discovered it was much larger inside than out, attorney for whistleblowers reveals

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...pace-time.html

The attorney told DailyMail.com that one alleged recovery, recounted to him by a supposed crash retrieval program insider, involved a 30ft saucer partially embedded in the earth, with some fantastical properties.

'They tried to hook a bulldozer to it to pull it out. And it pulled out a shape like a pie slice, almost like it was part of the way it was constructed,' Sheehan said.

'When it came loose a couple feet, they stopped immediately. They didn't want to destroy the integrity of the machine.

'They had a guy go into it. He got in there, and it was as big as a football stadium. It was freaking him out and started making him feel nauseous, he was so disoriented because it was so gigantic inside.

'It was the size of a football stadium, while the outside was only about 30 feet in diameter.'

Sheehan said that space was not the only warped dimension around the craft.

'He staggered back out after being in there a couple of minutes, and outside it was four hours later,' he said. 'There was all kinds of time distortion and space distortion.'

[Disciple]

or he knows more about the topic than anyone alive...

If people understand that they can bypass any intelligence system and remote view and see where they can contact these civilizations they have to be trained you know but I so I train people with the we have an app it's called CE5 Contact App and the CE5 Contact App you know there's millions of people using it now and it's a whole training program on remote viewing meditation making how to do this but the foundation of it is what you're asking about and that's the technological interface that I I don't have we have classified projects that have some of this but the these other civilizations...

How can you take this guy seriously?

[henri]

Aliens...UFO's...Cmon, seriously ???

[WillBrink]

How can you take this guy seriously?

As I have no way of knowing the legitimacy of that, I don't really bother with a position on it regardless of how "out there" it may sound. I do know what's known about consciousness, reality, space time, multi verses, etc is in it's infancy at best. He and others have maintained a long time some of them are inter-dimensional travelers, perhaps able to manipulate all the above, or using physics we can't even comprehend. I have no issues believing a species with a million years or so on may be capable of that.

That leaves me again with not being sure if he's gifted grifter and con man or knows more about the topic than anyone in the public arena. I vacillate on that one. Leaning more toward con man currently due to what tn1911 was posting.

Maybe Greer is the inter dimensional traveler!

[SteyrAUG]

My point being we obviously should believe what he, and apparently dozens of others, saw exactly what they claim they saw, which was corroborated by the most sophisticated radar we have. That's tech that should be well beyond anything we can produce (according to him and every SME who looks into it) which leaves us with few choices as to origins.

Denial of that reality is no longer an option.

You are assuming it's tech. Problem is having pretty much zero evidence of anything, we can't even say for sure it is some kind of tech. We don't know what it is. I know what many people want it to be, but we just aren't there yet.

And given what we don't know, it could literally be almost anything.

[WillBrink]

You are assuming it's tech. Problem is having pretty much zero evidence of anything, we can't even say for sure it is some kind of tech. We don't know what it is. I know what many people want it to be, but we just aren't there yet.

And given what we don't know, it could literally be almost anything.

Mass delusion? Demons as some here think? Astro projections? Ghosts? None of those would show on multiple radar and or cameras, but who knows. I guess we can even eliminate some kind of tech, but that does not leave much. I personally have my list of probables, some of that based also on other data points coming together to suggest tech, but maybe it's something we have not even considered.

[SteyrAUG]

I tend to think this is an accurate statement if/when.....

Can you imagine it ever happening, and since "they" would be so advanced it might be known to them, we ask the Big Question: What happens when you die? Then they look at us and shrug...."Jeez, we thought you humans would know!"

The irony being many humans would definitely tell them they know for sure what happens.