INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY U.S. HAS RETRIEVED CRAFT OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN

[SteyrAUG]

Mass delusion? Demons as some here think? Astro projections? Ghosts? None of those would show on multiple radar and or cameras, but who knows. I guess we can even eliminate some kind of tech, but that does not leave much. I personally have my list of probables, some of that based also on other data points coming together to suggest tech, but maybe it's something we have not even considered.

Thinking small. I mean it could be things we can't even conceptualize yet. The demons / ghost crowd are saying they know, I'm saying I don't think we know. And until we have something, we can't even begin to figure out what that something might be.

And while I think it's just another interstellar meteor, the scientists who are going "well wait a minute, this one seems different" are probably closer than anyone to having some possible evidence. It isn't completely unreasonable that a very advanced civilization might figure out how to task a meteor as a drone observer. We always assume they will come "in person and in their best interstellar spacecraft". That said, until there is something a bit more compelling, I still think it's just another interstellar meteor.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

After so many decades of talk but nothing tangible in hand, claiming a meteor is a billion-year old alien built space craft is a novel idea. Still, a meteor is a meteor until proved differently. Just as a UFO is nothing more than a UFO until identified. So far.,,

[WillBrink]

I have no idea what would qualify Greer to be inside the know of this. Mellon, Elizondo and Grusch all have serious credentials in fields directly tied to this.

Greer on the other hand doesn’t.

True, but he claims they're all disinfo agents. Just out, right in the beginning, he explains how/why he's in the UFO space:



Again, watching that, he's either a master con man who has his rap down to an art, or he's deeper than just about anyone. Maybe both!?

Also this guy Greer has made some rather extravagant claims himself, from personally briefing presidents, CIA directors and heads of intelligence agencies to having claimed he met with and briefed Grusch. A claim Grusch denies.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/commen...nding_to_lies/

https://twitter.com/DrStevenGreer/st...52566190829568

I think Greer is just a grifter.

The above does not paint him in a good light if he's claiming to talk to people he did not.

[Disciple]

As I have no way of knowing the legitimacy of that, I don't really bother with a position on it regardless of how "out there" it may sound. I do know what's known about consciousness, reality, space time, multi verses, etc is in it's infancy at best.

Read the quote again or better yet listen to him say it. This guy went into some bizarre salesman mode for a "CE5 Contact App" of which he claims "millions of people using it now" which is a whole different kettle of fish.

[tn1911]

The above does not paint him in a good light if he's claiming to talk to people he did not.

It’s not just this one he also claims to have briefed CIA director James Woolsey. Woolsey disputes Greer's claim. Greer claims to have briefed Bill Clinton which there’s no record of but he did send the WH piles of “reports” which they do say is true but none of them ever reached the president.

[WillBrink]

Read the quote again or better yet listen to him say it. This guy went into some bizarre salesman mode for a "CE5 Contact App" of which he claims "millions of people using it now" which is a whole different kettle of fish.

Yes, it stretches believably to the max. You can actually find CE5 meetings on MeetUp etc, so they're around. Hell, I'd even attend one if close by for chits.

[WillBrink]

It’s not just this one he also claims to have briefed CIA director James Woolsey. Woolsey disputes Greer's claim. Greer claims to have briefed Bill Clinton which there’s no record of but he did send the WH piles of “reports” which they do say is true but none of them ever reached the president.

I would not expect there to be any records or admissions on that one. Personally I think Elizando and Mellon, among others, are legit trying to expose what is known by the government and are genuine. Whether Greer is full of chit and knows it, or he’s just misinformed and does not know what he thinks he knows, is unclear. I find him entertaining and would put my $ on Elizando having better intel.

[tn1911]

I would not expect there to be any records or admissions on that one. Personally I think Elizando and Mellon, among others, are legit trying to expose what is known by the government and are genuine. Whether Greer is full of chit and knows it, or he’s just misinformed and does not know what he thinks he knows, is unclear. I find him entertaining and would put my $ on Elizando having better intel.

I think Elizondo is the real deal who’s seen highly classified stuff, and not just the blurry go fast and gimbal videos. He’s said many times we have images from spy satellites and video from drones of craft.

So he’s seen video of these things that’s on this level right here....



My only thing about Elizondo is how he’s somehow still inside, we know he was in communication with Grusch and apparently at least two other whistleblowers. He was very forthcoming about inside info regarding the now passed UAP legislation well before any of it was openly known. Some think he might of even played a part in its crafting.

So who’s feeding him info?

I wonder if he was picked to play the part of messenger, then given the two Navy videos to leak. The pilots were allowed to speak on the record giving multiple interviews and he’s the source for a lot of these whistleblower coming out now.

[Inkslinger]

EXCLUSIVE: Crashed UFO recovered by the US military 'distorted space and time,' leaving one investigator 'nauseous and disoriented' when he went in and discovered it was much larger inside than out, attorney for whistleblowers reveals

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...pace-time.html

Did it look like this?

[StainlessSteelRat]

And given what we don't know, it could literally be almost anything.

This is the real issue. As Arthur C. Clarke said, "A sufficiently advanced technology will be indistinguishable from magic." If you took an F-22 or even a MacBook back in time to a Bronze Age village, what would they make of it? They'd probably think it was supernatural. They'd have not a clue how it works, how it was made, or how the materials were made. And we're only talking 3000 years.
Now imagine a race 50 or 100k years ahead of us, and perhaps from another dimension of reality. If they've learned how to manipulate the fabric of reality (whatever the hell it is) they might be capable of damned near anything.

If you haven't seen Tucker's interview with Dr Nolan, it's worth a look.